I was gonna skip that boxset because River meeting Doctor’s incarnations before 10 never sits right with me. But a plot line on aro & ace? Gotta listen to that
You will have to listen and find out!
This image brought back a few memories!
For some reason, we used to have a copy of Dr Twelfth. I remember Twelve fighting Missy and Cybermats in Egypt.
This might have been the first full piece of Doctor Who I had ever experienced.
And now I’m going to see if there’s a topic about how you got into Doctor Who, because I’m remembering loads now!
My point isn’t that she doesn’t know who he is - it is established Silence that the Doctor doesn’t know who she is and yet she knows exactly who he is (and it is ‘technically’ the last time she meets him). So if 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9 meet her they have to not find out who she is (like in Doom Coalition 1 where she goes out of her way to make sure 8 doesn’t find out she’s involved). Alternatively, the Doctor has to have a mind wipe of some description.
No I know that wasn’t your point. That is easily dealt with by mind wipes or events being rewritten from history.
I’m just saying that it’s pretty clearly spelled out in The Time of Angels that she has met his other past incarnations. So Big Finish aren’t going against the TV show lore.
(And in The Husbands of River Song we find that she has never previously met 12, presumably because she was part of the aborted timeline that says the Doctor dies at Trenzalore).
Which just seems like lazy writing to allow for something which doesn’t really make sense (whether or not it’s said it happens in the show. It’s used as a gag in Husbands of River Song to start with. Actually depicting how that works in a drama is where it starts to fall apart).
Why doesn’t it make sense that the time-travelling wife of a famous time-traveller would bump into him in the wrong order throughout his life? Whether by mistake and coincidence or because she is trying to help or follow up on things he’s done? I think it makes perfect sense!
It’s also how they met, how they ended up getting married, and how she died, so it’s basically the definition of their relationship.
I meant him not knowing who she is if she’s met him multiple times. I get meeting in the wrong order from 10 onwards. It’s mixing in all the classic Doctors which muddies the waters and, for me, dilutes the whole ‘time traveller’s wife’ bit.
For me, what muddies the water is that the TARDIS is the Doctor’s wife.
Unless River is the TARDIS, which is always possible…
I’m pretty sure she has been described as part TARDIS, so that can make it either better or so much worse, depending on your point of view😆
My thinking is that we know TARDIS’s, such as this one:
Are alive and sentient beings, and they are also part biological, part electronic.
The sentient part could be in the electronics. Specifically, it’s possible at some point River gets downloaded from the Library, and inserted into a new TARDIS to power it, and that ended up as the Doctor’s TARDIS…
I know it was silly but I loved that scene!
Season 6B… er, troubles me. It seems like an awful lot of effort to go to to explain some minor continuity problems in The Five and Two Doctors (though that pales into insignificance compared to the energy expended on explaining a silly sight gag in The Brain of Morbius).
I think, for me at least, Season 6B undercuts the ending of The War Games. That is because watching the Time Lords effectively execute my Doctor had a massive impact on me as a child. Unlike other regenerations where you see one actor fall down and another actor immediately sit up and take over, the long wait to see Pertwee tumble out of the TARDIS added to my uncertainty over what was going on. It was traumatic but exciting at the same time…
So I find the idea of a grey haired 2nd Doctor having adventures post-War Games a bit naff, to say the least. Sorry.
We actually have a thread discussing this.
I’m so sorry, I totally missed that thread. If you like I’m happy to copy and paste my post over there.
It’s entirely up to you. We’re flexible here. I informed you about the 6B thread less as a “Why didn’t you post there” and as a “this exists if you want to read our thoughts on the matter”.
Also, this forum has existed for almost ten months now. The longer we go on existing, the easier it is for duplicate topics to exist and older threads to get buried.
Huh? Who says the TARDIS is his wife? Do you mean the TV episode The Doctor’s Wife because I 100% think that was just a Moffat way of making fans speculate like crazy.
River is the child of the TARDIS. I don’t think she’s part TARDIS. She is Amy and Rory’s daughter plus the time vortex exposure during conception plus some genetic engineering by the Church.
I think people would hate this idea. They already hate how much importance Moffat gave Clara in the Doctor’s life. Imagine if River was the TARDIS all along!
Considering it’s established that TARDIS’s are sentient, it was pretty unethical for the Doctor to do this. A cool looking scene but totally out of character!
Well if you’re going to get all ethical and actually think about it…