You're going to love this - A Fugitive Doctor Thread

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I think to respect the First Doctor’s character arc, the Fugitive Doctor using the title Doctor should be revealed as meaning something different to her incarnation.

The title “Doctor” has various meanings like physician, healer, scientist, and an expert of a specific subject. What if the title that the First Doctor chose at the Academy meant physician or healer, because we know that he chose it as a promise to never be cruel or cowardly, to never give up or in, I think he should be the first to choose that title with that promise assigned to it. And it wouldn’t really make sense for the Fugitive Doctor to have chosen it for that reason as she was working for the Division and doing things the very opposite of that.

So what if the title that the Fugitive Doctor uses means scientist or expert of science, but it wasn’t her incarnation that chose it but one of her prior incarnations, maybe the seventh child that we saw recruited into the Division in The Timeless Children, because he was the incarnation of the Doctor who existed during the creation of Time Lord society and so would’ve been the first generation of Time Lords at the Academy.

What do you guys think of this explanation?

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I’d love to see this, and perhaps some Mission Impossible and James Bond style stories where the Fugitive Doctor leads a team to take down threats to Division’s plans and control over civilisations. I think there are different types of Division Missions, one of them being to stop threats, either deliberate attempts to overthrow Division’s control like the Servants of Time such as the Ravagers, or, which was most likely the case the majority of the time, threats to Division’s plans and control by people who literally didn’t know that they were interfering.

I think what could be explored too is that Division is probably behind many organisations we’ve seen in the past such as the Time Agency, Villenguard, the Shadow Proclamation, and many others. Plus, could Division be behind Logopolis? A race of beings who are engineered to keep a force in check on a planet, the Mouri with Time on Time, the Logopolitans with entropy on Logopolis.

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I’m pretty sure Chibnall was adamant at the time that the Fugitive was not from another universe but in the DWM preview, Valentine suggests that all options are open and that she could be. So I agree with you that I think something has got lost in translation during the feedback from Chibnall.

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The Fugitive Doctor flies again

Jo Martin and Alice Krige star in The Fugitive Doctor: Dead or Alive, a brilliant box set of full-cast audio drama, due in July 2025 from Big Finish Productions.

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Still on the run from her old employers, the sinister Time Lord agency known as the Division, the Fugitive Doctor (Jo Martin) embarks upon three thrilling new adventures across time and space in the forthcoming box set Dead or Alive.

Along the way, she’ll come to the aid of a Spitfire pilot lost in the vortex, crash into a junkyard of dead time machines, and face off against a vampire queen. But what will she do when her dogged pursuer Cosmogon (Alice Krige, known for her role in the Star Trek franchise) finally catches up with her?

Doctor Who – The Fugitive Doctor: Dead or Alive is now available to pre-order for just £22.99 (collector’s edition CD box set + download) or £18.99 (download only), exclusively here. Please note: the collector’s edition CD box set is strictly limited to 1,000 copies and will not be repressed.

The three exciting new adventures for the Fugitive Doctor are:

Flying Solo by Tajinder Singh Hayer

Pilot Officer Mohinder Singh Johal is an RAF pilot on a sortie during World War Two. Following a close encounter with a flying blue telephone box, his Spitfire vanishes!

The Doctor, whose TARDIS is out of control following a blast from a time disruptor, should be keeping a low profile, but with Mohinder lost in time and space, she has to help bring him home.

The Junkyard Loop by Aaron Douglas

The Doctor, pursued as ever by Cosmogon, crash-lands the TARDIS on an off-grid junk planet littered with the remains of time machines from a thousand civilisations.

After being saved from the indigenous Time-Frost Parasites by Sodalis, an old companion long-marooned, the Doctor must come up with a plan to save them both. But a sinister Division commander has tracked our heroes, and not even Cosmogon can stand between him and his desire to unlock the Doctor’s memory and obtain the secrets within.

Hereafter by Tim Foley

Cosmo has finally captured the Doctor! But they’re stranded together on a planet thanks to an unusual psychic forcefield grounding her ship.

Tracing its source, they find a settlement that’s preparing for a festival in honour of their ‘queen’ in the mountain.

When Cosmo is captured, the Doctor must decide whether to help her captor… especially now she’s discovered, thanks to local woman Herma, that the queen and her minions are vampires!

The Fugitive Doctor: Dead or Alive has a guest cast including Raj Ghatak (Dead Set) as RAF pilot Mohinder Johal and John Dorney as Alexander the Great (reprising the role from the Lost Stories release Farewell, Great Macedon), as well as Terence Wilton (Doctor Who: Invasion of the Dinosaurs), Alexander Vlahos (The Confessions of Dorian Gray), and Clare Perkins (The Outlaws, Doctor Who: Redacted).

Producer David Richardson said: “The distinct tone of the Fugitive Doctor stories is crystallised in this second box set. The Doctor is still on the run from her Division pursuer Cosmo, and caught up in events she crashes into – I certainly don’t think the energy and emotional highs of Tajinder Singh Hayer’s phenomenal Flying Solo would fit into any other Doctor Who range.

“And John Dorney pops back as Alexander the Great – we had brilliant fun exploring a little thematic link to Farewell, Great Macedon in the Lost Stories range. Aaron Douglas’s The Junkyard Loop is wildly imaginatively bonkers, while Hereafter digs in deep in terms of character exploration. Of course it does – it’s by the legendary Tim Foley!”

Big Finish listeners can pre-order Dead or Alive in a bundle with the previous Fugitive Doctor box set, Most Wanted, which was released in January, for just £36 (download only), exclusively here.

All the above prices (including pre-order and multibuy bundle discounts) are fixed for a limited time only and guaranteed no later than 30 September 2025.

Please note that Big Finish is currently operating a digital-first release schedule. The mail-out of collector’s edition CDs may be delayed due to factors beyond our control, but all purchases of this release unlock a digital copy that can be immediately downloaded or played on the Big Finish app from the release date.

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I did not expect them to announce details this soon!

With Thirteenth Doctor releasing in the same month, I am now very excited for July!

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Sounds great! The final story, I was expecting something like that with those 2 characters together & having it written by Tim Foley! :tada:

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Very nice surprise today! Pretty much everything about this is a good sign to me. Dorney back as Alexander the Great, at least one story that should be entirely away from Earth, vampires, Tim Foley, writers outside of the usual gotos and way more of Cosmo. This bodes well.

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Okay! Sounds really good! And that’s another gorgeous cover!

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With Cosmo being center stage on the cover and the description of the last story, it’s looking like we’ll get a lot more of her in this boxset, which is exciting!

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It’s also interesting that we’re getting a story set in a time machine junkyard and there’s a hypercube on the cover. Now where have I seen those two things together before…

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Odd that they’ve released the cover art but not updated the product page for Dead or Alive to include it.

Still, pleasantly surprised we’re getting it that soon. I’d suspected a 12 month gap but this might suggest a more regular ongoing series for Jo than I first thought. July is a good choice as well I suppose because it’s when Jodie’s range starts.

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I’m making a montage of all of the moments throughout Doctor Who that could’ve been the Doctor’s forgotten past slipping through into their mind. What episodes did the First and Second Doctor say that they built the TARDIS? I’ve got The Tomb of the Cybermen so far.

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I am not entirely sure if that’s what you meant, but I am pretty confident about a Scene like that being in The Chase in particular if I am not mistaken the first Episode.

Also, a Suggestion, but you might want to include the Scene where One talks about being a Pioneer in their Society, which happened in the last Episode of the Daleks. Just something that maybe could fit in it well, I think.

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Thank you, I was actually looking for that one, I’ve added that in. That moment in The Daleks is the first one I thought of. Here’s the link to the video I’ve made and what’s on there so far.

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Ah that’s great!
And lovely, I am curious to see if there is anymore to be added. :clap:
I could personally not think of any other Moments, at least at the Moment.

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Thank you😁

The one from The Hand of Fear was actually a realisation by RTD in Letter from the Showrunner, in Issue 599 of the DWM.

“Thought number two. My random scrolling through the Whoniverse allows me to find corners of Doctor Who I haven’t watched in very long while.

And one day, I found myself watching The Hand of Fear, which contains a very interesting piece of dialogue l’d never noticed before. I always think of the Time Lords in their classic definition, given by the Second Doctor in The War Games, “They don’t interfere in the affairs of other planets.” A strict policy of non-intervention, it was always said. But look! Hold on! What’s this? The Hand of Fear, Part Three, Eldrad (who changes from female to male without the blink of an eye - those were the days) says that the Doctor, as a Time Lord, is “…pledged to prevent alien aggression”. And the Doctor nods and completes the line, “…only when such aggression is deemed to threaten the indigenous population”. Really?! But that’s a completely different mythology. And it’s fascinating, the way the Fourth Doctor says it. He’s a bit vague and grumpy, like he’s remembering some old rote. Almost like…

…okay, bear with me, almost like he’s remembering some old, half-forgotten Warrior Gallifrey, the like of which would have a certain Fugitive Doctor going into battle.

Blimey. Was it always there? Did Eldrad know before we did? I love it!”

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Should I add the First Doctor’s extreme reaction in The Chase of Ian and Barbara’s request to leave and return home, as that’s a perfect example of the Doctor’s abandonment issues. I could put a clip of the foundling Doctor alone by the monument, & then have that clip from The Chase to give context to it.

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Underworld had a bit of time lord lore in it:

DOCTOR: It was what happened on Minyos that led to our policy of non-intervention.
LEELA: Huh?
DOCTOR: Yeah. Well, the Minyans thought of us as gods, you see, which was all very flattering and we were new at space-time explorations, so we thought we could help. We gave them medical and scientific aid, better communications, better weapons.
LEELA: What happened?
DOCTOR: Kicked up out at gunpoint. Then they went to war with each other, learnt how to split the atom, discovered the toothbrush and finally split the planet.
LEELA: So this ship must have got away before the planet was destroyed.
DOCTOR: Yes.
LEELA: That was a hundred thousand years ago. Nobody lives for a hundred thousand years. Do they?

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For that matter, Unearthly Child had:

SUSAN: The TARDIS can go anywhere.
BARBARA: TARDIS? I don’t understand you, Susan.
SUSAN: Well, I made up the name TARDIS from the initials, Time And Relative Dimension In Space. I thought you’d both understand when you saw the different dimensions inside from those outside.

and

IAN: You’re treating us like children.
DOCTOR: Am I? The children of my civilisation would be insulted.
IAN: Your civilisation?
DOCTOR: Yes, my civilisation. I tolerate this century, but I don’t enjoy it. Have you ever thought what it’s like to be wanderers in the fourth dimension? Have you? To be exiles? Susan and I are cut off from our own planet, without friends or protection. But one day we shall get back. Yes, one day. One day.

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Oh yeah sure, why not! You could even add some Bits of his Speech in the End of the Massacre!

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