It’s time to listen to and discuss Loups-Garoux
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Oh another unpopular opinion from me here on this one I fear… I just don’t like this episode. I found it painfully boring last time I listened and I struggled to follow what was going on. I think generally Fifth Doctor stuff on audio isn’t my cup of tea 
might try and give it another go this week though
I couldn’t lock into this one. Rosa was interesting, but the rest just didn’t hold my attention. Feel bad for Five, as he started strong with Phantasmagoria, but then it all went down hill. 2.5/5 (5/10)
This is one of a clutch of BF stories (maybe a new trope in the offing) where female characters take a fancy to the Fifth Doctor.
I know where you’re coming from. Doesn’t float my boat either. I think the biggest issue is that it just never feels like a Fifth Doctor story for me. I can’t quite put my finger on it, but the aesthetic feels all wrong for some reason.
I don’t think this is an unpopular opinion; it’s very rarely brought up in conversation as a highlight of either early Big Finish Main Range entries or as a Fifth Doctor story. I remember it being dull and difficult to listen to. I don’t know why they went with so many stories that demanded distinctive accent work, though. After at least twenty stories now, they should have either been able to cast people who could do those accents or just advise actors not to do them at all. There again, I imagine these were being made on a shoestring budget at the time, so once an actor had committed to a dreadful accent, there wasn’t a lot of time or money to rerecord a sequence.
Fair enough - in the circles I’ve been in, everyone has seemed to like this episode a lot more than me, so I thought I was the outlier! And you would think that BF would learn with accents, but even to this day they still bring out some pretty bloody bad ones - one of the worst is loml Louise Jameson in ATA Girl doing ‘Irish’, oh my god that was painful. I love her, but why…
I like it. Marc Platt just has that wonderful way with language that really makes this story stand out in a way it probably wouldn’t otherwise. I love the urban fantasy modern fairytale leaning in the story. I do wish they did more with the future-Brazil setting though.
I really didn’t like this one. While it was better this listen through than my first, it still really wasn’t enjoyable to me.
I liked this one a lot
See, I still don’t feel it works for me but I do generally really like Platt’s writing. He writes strong dialogue and has a sense for both clever ideas and atmosphere. I just don’t feel it quite gels for me in this story. Glad it works for you though!
I have never been that interested in werewolves and this episode is a bit boring to me.
Just heard the first two episodes, story wise I find it just fine. The takeaway is just how amazing a duo Turlough and the Fifth Doctor are. Love those two together on their own 
You seem so nice but your opinions are always the opposite of mine 
Yeah, I think werewolves (and vampires for that matter) are tropes that have been done to death and never particularly excite me in genre TV in general, let alone in Doctor Who.
I love werewolves (no matter how often they come to play), but in this they really didn’t work for me.
Not a big fan of werewolves either, but they work a helluva lot better here than in Tooth and Claw…
Just listened to this for the first time today!
I liked it, but there were definitely some problems. The setting of a devastated Amazon was very interesting and I think the country of Brazil was used well in the audio. I liked the werewolves and enjoyed their rich backstory that dominated much of the audio. Characters like Anton and Ileana were well-written and entertaining.
On the other hand, Pieter and Rosa were very underwhelming as characters. I didn’t like their performers and really didn’t like the cultural appropriation going on with Rosa’s character. She had a charming story and chemistry going on with Turlough but some of that writing and her accent were just painful to listen to.
Overall it wasn’t bad, and I really enjoyed having an entertaining Turlough story, as it feels he really got to shine here. He and the Doctor were great overall and a big part of what makes this audio work for me. Turlough felt intimately involved in the story and I love the scenes where the werewolves were messing around with him. The Doctor also had a really compelling relationship with Ileana and had a lot of solid moments. I rate it an 8/10 for these reasons, in spite of the audio’s issues.
I am going through this at a very slow pace. Just heard the third episode.
It’s a perfectly good Doctor Who take on werewolves in a future Earth setting - Doctor Who can just be anything really, and I love that.
Turlough is such a good character when used right. And he sure did share those furs with Rosa in this episode 
And that cliffhanger sure did call back to the 1st Doctor making cocoa for Cameca 
