TV Club: Torchwood - They Keep Killing Suzie

Brutal murders are occurring around Cardiff - and they are linked to Torchwood. How can Suzie Costello be involved when she’s dead?

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Meeeeehhhhhhh.

I mean it’s alright.

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I rather like this one. I do like Suzie a lot. I can’t wait to dive more into her audio realeases.

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This is one of the better TW episodes from season 1. I think that Suzie is an interesting character, and I like that she and Gwen share the screen together a lot in this one. I also think that the plot works quite well, even if I feel that they could have used the glove in some other episodes. The only thing I don’t understand is why she also had a thing for Owen. To me, the most unrealistic part of the show is that all the women of Torchwood are attracted to that pile of garbage… at least he is not in the episode that much, and that is a plus!

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This episode is good, but not quite the brilliant thing I remember it being. It’s honestly quite small-scale and slow in the middle, but it’s also a fascinating character drama. It’s probably one of the least outlandish episodes of Series 1.

7/10

They Keep Killing Suzie is an intriguing, continuity-rich episode that builds on past events to tell a smaller, more introspective tale. While it doesn’t fully lean into its potential for high drama, it succeeds in reinforcing the moral ambiguity of Torchwood’s work and the weight of their decisions. Suzie’s return offers a compelling—if underdeveloped—look at a former team member left behind, while the episode as a whole highlights Torchwood’s ongoing struggle with the consequences of their own actions.

Feel free to read my full review below:

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This one’s fun and the flirting over her dead corpse scene is a great ending.

I do love Suzie as a character too. There’s nothing wrong about this episode.

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My thoughts from when I watched it last year:

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Gwen for sure wishes she could bring her back one last time to kill her again

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I really like this episode. A highlight is Suzie kissing Gwen at the docks, showing that truly ever Torchwood character is bisexual.

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I rather like it!
It’s definitely a favorite of mine, probably helps that I think Suzie is a great Character (both thanks to the nice Script and especially Indira Varma’s great Performance as the Character). What this Story does with Gwen is great! The Plot as well certainly doesn’t disappoint! Sure, it could technically do more with it, but what it does with it already brings out some great Character Drama. Furthermore, I do think it’s a very good Story for Torchwood and exploring their Inner-workings very well! Really, I don’t think I can find many Complaints about it, besides maybe a few Nitpicks.

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There’s something very funny about Ianto using the stopwatch he got from his Torchwood One father figure to proposition Jack lmao

Overall this is a really fun story, and I forgot how much I really liked it, the risen mitten story arc is a really interesting part of Torchwood, and it’s a perfect example of the show being adult without coming across like a 14 year old’s idea of adult

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Same!! When it was revealed it was her contingency plan all along in the event of her death… absolutely blew my mind. I wonder if they ever delve into her first getting and experimenting with the gauntlet in the audios, that’d be cool to explore.

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I made a review for this one

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Fun episode, not much to say other than Ianto, that’s not what stop watches are for!

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Best episode of Torchwood to this point, honestly. Loved it.

Wish we could’ve kept Suzie, as she was more interesting then several other members of the cast…

(Besides, imagine dragging Suzie’s corpse out every week and bringing her to life for a mission…)

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I like that each character got a “focus” episode… including the dead one.

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Having Rewatched this one recently, I think it’s my second favourite episode of Season One, behind Countrycide.
I love stories that deal with the effects of working for Torchwood, and Suzie is such a brilliant character that I can’t help but love this story.

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Just rewatched this and I bumped my rating up to 4/5.

It’s just such a great character drama but also a really good mystery and a fantastic “long game” by Suzie (although not sure how she could have planned the lockdown timing so perfectly, maybe she popped into the cell just before she left to trigger him and get it just right).

Suzie is brilliant, something I’ve come to appreciate more having listened to some of her audios recently, and I love Gwen so much.

I still don’t get the thing about the stopwatch :man_shrugging:t2: but this is where Jack + Ianto began!

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If i should die this very moment…

Suzie’s extensive planning here is almost Sherlock levels of ridiculous, and I am here for it!

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This episode is fine. I don’t like it as much as most people, or indeed as much as I’d hoped I would. I really like Indira Varma as an actress (I’ve even seen her perform in the West End), and I like her here, but I still struggle to connect with this episode.

I think part of my problem here is that the Suzie in this episode feels like a different character to me than the Suzie from ‘Everything Changes’. In the first episode of the series, she seems to be a nice, competent member of Torchwood who was corrupted by the resurrection glove. Here she’s this evil mastermind who’s been working against Torchwood and has been planning a grand scheme for at least 2 years. This doesn’t contradict anything, we haven’t seen enough of Suzie for me to say “no she wouldn’t do this”. But it still feels like a different character to me, and that causes a disconnect between me and the episode.

The thing that stops me from connecting here the most though is probably Suzie’s masterplan. She’s concocted what is an absurdly convoluted scheme and I don’t think any of it really makes sense when you think about it. I’m not going to go into all the reasons why I think her plan makes absolutely no sense at all (I’ll link to my review if people want to read more). But for example, her entire plan requires Torchwood to use the resurrection glove a bunch of times. Except that it’s a plot point in this episode that nobody on the team is actually able to use the glove, apart from Gwen. Gwen of course was not on the team when Suzie was alive. So an essential part of Suzie’s plan is for Torchwood to do a thing, that at the time of her death nobody in Torchwood could do.

Now the thing about dumb plotting is that I can often forgive it as long as it’s fun or if it leads to something good. And, to some extent that is the case in this episode. Indira Varma is having fun here, and that makes the episode somewhat enjoyable on it’s own. I also like that the plot sets up the Gwen & Suzie pairing which I also enjoy. But too much of the episode takes itself a too seriously for me to consider it “dumb fun”, and a lot of what the dumb plot points lead to, are more dumb plot points as more of Suzie’s plan is revealed.

I found it hard to get into this episode because every 5 minutes or so I had to stop to say “Wait! What… Really?”.

So yeah I think a lot of this episode is actually very dumb, which isn’t the worst crime in the world. But here I did have problems with how dumb the plot was. There’s certainly some charm to be found here as well though. 6/10

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