Happy pride month all, thought it might be nice to have a thread to talk about some of our favourite queer characters!
Obviously everyone in Torchwood, but for me I love the expanded media for queer Torchwood characters.
Itâs always lovely to get older queer characters and Mr Colchester is absolutely perfect for that, his relationship with Colin is just so sweet.
As someone whoâs genderfluid/genderqueer and pansexual myself, I absolutely adore Orr, and I love that their genderfluidity is literally their âsuperpowerâ.
And lastly how can you talk about Big Finish original Torchwood characters without mentioning the one and only Norton Folgate
Iâve really been liking that in newer Gallifrey audios, thereâs some more casual queer side characters - I am especially fond of Trave who did a ftm regeneration and has a husband. I suppose all Time Lords are a little queer on the gender front by human standards, and I love that that has been repeatedly and explicitly established by now. Shout out to the General too, who we saw regenerate on screen in Hell Bent but is being utterly delightful in the audios.
Also, I must highlight both Benny and River as bisexual time travelling archaeologist icons <3 I love them both so much
I will say about Vastra and Jenny that thereâs was a relationship I felt wasnât written in a particularly good way. There are some bits where Vastra treats Jenny as a maid even when there is no one else around and that just never sat right with me.
I forget the characterâs name but in Tragedy Day, the New Adventure, I remember the review commenting on one of the guest characterâs being gay and how it was refreshing that it was just a part of them, matter of fact, and not a big deal (or words to that effect). It wasnât the defining character trait.
I must admit I like a character 10000x more if it turns out they are gay. It just peaks my interest. So whereas I knew nothing about Matteusz at first, as soon as I found out he was gay I was suddenly a lot more interested in Class!
And Luke, well I kinda knew that from the beginning, it was the whole âI was born differentâ vibe he had, being created by the Bane.
As for Jenny and Vastra - I kinda agree with @deltaandthebannermen they did have a strange relationship sometimes but I think thatâs just their thing. Some relationships are a bit one-sided and sometimes thatâs consensual. Whatever floats your boat.
Although I like Jack, I do also find him a bit of a bad example - how promiscuous he is, itâs not representative of every bi person.
Probably my favourite queer character pre-2023 was Ianto Jones. Again, I knew very little about him until it turned out he was queer (but only for Jack?) then I became obsessed. I see a lot of me in him. I even look a bit like him apparently. And I was gutted when he died. I have visited his âshrineâ in Cardiff!
Who is my favourite queer character post-2023?
The Fifteenth Doctor!
I have heard the term âomnisexualâ thrown around a bit when talking about Jack. And perhaps homo sapiens have just evolved a larger libido by the 51st century
Yeah. I just never really forgave him for how he treated Gwen! It was unnecessary and wrong.
Bill is one of my favorite queer characters of all time, I have such a soft spot for her. Series 10 was coming out right about when I was coming to terms with my own sexuality, and having her on screen absolutely helped me do that. Sheâs an adult comfortable in who she is. I like how we get to see her go on dates, she gets to make jokes about being gay, we get to see her kiss a woman. That was so significant to me at the time and I still love her dearly.
Happy pride month to all the lgbtq+ whovians
My faves
Bill potts
Jenny (and thats not because she has the same name as međ)
Ianto
Theses ladies in gridlock
Least favourite queer characters:
THIN ONE: Hello. Iâm the Thin One. This is my husband. Heâs the Fat One.
LORNA: Donât you have names?
FAT ONE: Weâre the thin fat gay married Anglican marines. Why would we need names as well?
Okay, itâs probably worth mentioning Loki here.
I donât really mean the tv show character, though, though they count. I mean the mythological character. Loki was a shapeshifter, and did shapeshift into both sexes.
Notable was the time when a giant was going a job for the gods with help of a huge stallion, and was in danger of actually completing on time and the gods having to honor his contract.
Loki went and changed into a mare and ran off with the stallion, keeping him occupied all night, preventing them from getting the work done in time, and also getting pregnant in the mix.
Loki then gave birth to the eight legged stallion Sleipnir, who Odin rides.
Thatâs your bit of queer mythology! (For other queer mythological characters, go play HadesâŚ)
Been talking about my favs in the other thread but let me also post my girl here
Outside of Doctor Who, Iâve gotta give a special shoutout to these two for not only being great but also for cracking my egg
Iâd appreciate those two more if I hadnât spend most of the show going âCatra, no!â.
That and I love Scorpia and Entrapta too much not to be irritated with CatraâŚ
I mean, itâs debatable, but I see most of the Doctors as ace, and asexual people are also a part of LGBTQ community! I identify as asexual, and I really like that the Doctor is so heavily ace-coded throughout the history of the show. My headcannon is that most of the modern Doctors are panromantic asexual and at least half of the classic Doctors are aro-ace (particularly Two, Four, Six and Seven)