Episode Discussion: Wish World

A world where doubt is a thoughtcrime, and the people are kept happy and distracted by the many adventures of a man called The Doctor.

I guess we now know how much The Natural History Of Fear needed to be sanded down to become an actual TV story.

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There is a lot going on here but for me it all felt like it contributed, which is rare.

With certain things teased here I think there’ll be even more next week which threatens to flatten the story under the weight of everything but I think we’ve arrived at this point far more organically and satisfyingly than last year’s finale.

I like how the episode ‘breathed’. A lot going on but I appreciated (oh boy did I appreciate) how it didn’t rush. Whether or not the planet really gets destroyed is a moot point, we knew it wouldn’t really get destroyed since it got teased in Episode 1 so it’s destruction here doesn’t bother me, we knew it was coming as a problem for the Doctor to solve.

As usual, I may be in the minority but for once it’s nice to be in the minority for actually liking it. So I’m pleased as punch.

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At least its a better part 1 than The End of Time for me ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Not sure how I feel about the Harry Potter typeface…

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One thing I think needed a bit more weight or focus was the underground group with Shirley and co. It’s a nice concept that they go unseen, but convenient. Wouldn’t the Rani be aware of these groups? And then Shirley just produced a UNIT iPad as a ‘relic’ of the ‘other world’ out of nowhere. Some of that stuff just felt a bit too easy and convenient.

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I. Loved. That!!!

It tickled me pink all the way through.
It is such a Rani scheme!
I can’t wait for the conclusion next week!

Is the story a bit of a mess? Maybe a bit, but in the same vein as “The Power of the Doctor” is - even down to the Disco ball and the villain dancing!

All of RTD2 is a crazy nostalgia fest, and I know that is not everyone’s thing, but it works for me gloriously these days.

“This is not just exposition” - such a good line :grin:

I have no negatives - and I love not having been spoiled about a single thing here :grin::grin::grin:

Omega, Ranis, Susan, The Doctor, a toothy Master - are we finally seeing the end of Last of the Time Lords shtick?

Rogue??? Did not see that coming…

Is Poppy Susan’s mother?

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Also, not sure who said it, but someone said that Shirley keeps having her disability discriminated against and they hope it doesn’t happen this episode.

Sorry, it happened, but on a bigger scale lol.

(Although I really liked the camp of ‘misfits’ who Conrad can’t see, that was good!)

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I think it’s perfect given how bigoted Conrad’s world is, perfectly matches the author :smirking_face:.

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Yeah, that scene in the camp I did really like. That, plus the idea of the mugs to represent the growing doubt (The bins filled with shattered pieces) were my highlights of the episode.

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I really liked it too,dont have much complaints,maybe i just wanted to see more of The Rani.

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I kinda like it because it shows that despite society (both Conrad’s and our own) treating disabled people as if they’re worthless, they can still do amazing things (although they didn’t actually do anything, I’m just assuming they will next episode).

But yes, I agree with the sentiment that Shirley constantly having her disability being discriminated against is real bad, she really needs more scenes that don’t involve her disability.

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I can kind of get behind the Rani’s plan here, as constructing this whole Wish World as a trap for the Doctor as part of an even greater scheme just screams ‘mad science experiment’, which fits her.

Making her the Doctor’s ex(?), though, not so much.

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The Master is gunna be p!ssed when he finds out.

:joy:

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If it helps add to the doubt, which she claims she needed for the plan to work, then I reckon she turned a blind eye to them? I didn’t really feel like there was anything here any more convenient than usual in Doctor Who plot progression.

I really liked how this one was set up and almost luxuriated for much of its runtime in the world it created.

Really didn’t expect to like this one so much.

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Oh my word, what if Poppy is Susan’s mother and also the daughter of the Doctor and the Rani???

:exploding_head:

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Does the Rani even pay attention to what is happening on the Earth, outside an incredibly wide view. To me the Rani comes off as a top level manager, listens to reports from underlings but rarely goes into the trenches herself.

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I could almost feel an aneurysm from reading that. I can get behind Lungbarrow and the Timeless Child simultaneously, but this is going too far.

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I would absolutely love that!!
I am here for the crazy :grin::smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

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I can’t really remember much of the Rani, need to rewatch her stories but I have a question:

Why would she be interested in bringing Omega back?

I also need to rewatch his stuff.

This is just RTD wanting to get us watching Classic Who isn’t it?

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I am in love with the Rani and it’s all Archie Punjabi’s fault

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