Episode Discussion: The Legend of Ruby Sunday

You just saved me a lot of typing :wink: That is essentially how I feel about this episode.

Also there were just too many people in it, and can we please keep a single scientific advisor for a while? Where is Shirley? And please can I have the Osgoods back :grin: What was the point of having Rose Noble in it and why is she essential staff if her job is catching petty thieves and the like?

And I kind of don’t know how to feel about Ruby’s reactions to her birth mother, I am not adopted but still I would buy it a bit more if she just once went “Why the bleedin’ heck did you abandon me you piece of?”.

The best little moment in it was absolutely Mel just telling 15 to get his s**t together, Bonnie Langford is great!

Also Mrs. Flood just got way more interesting :grin:

Yeah overall this felt like it was too muddled. I would love it if the second part would be a bit like The Big Bang where the focus is just on a handful of characters instead of giving a load of characters very little to do.

Initial rating is probably at 2,5/5 :star: with only The Devil’s Chord below it in 15’s era.

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This was my biggest problem with this episode. I
Also thought that this was the weakest of all the modern scientific advisors. Really did not like the whole 95% chance of a trap thing. But I am generally not a fan of the child acting like an adult thing. I had more problems with this than I had with the talking babies in episode 1.

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Absolutely this.
Also we got The Vlinx that is so undefined and then throw a “genetically engineered child genius” on top? Just bring back Mr. Smith, Luke Smith and Sky instead :wink:

Twice we’ve got the H. Arbinger “misdirect”, and I don’t think it is quite as clever as RTD clearly thinks it is :wink:

Nice touch with the camera being 66 meters away ~ 73 Yards.

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Oh, I missed that. When was that.

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Didn’t Harriet Arbinger say that when they first got the VHS? Or did I imagine that?

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I will listen to that when I do my rewatch. I just have to rewatch Pyramids of Mars first.

But I just wrote this in the season finale thread:

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I’m currently at episode 2 of The Sontaran Experiment on a rewatch, so if I “power through” a bit I will reach Pyramids before the final episode :grin:

And how likely is it that Pyramids of Mars is the Tales of the TARDIS episode on Thursday? (that for stupid reasons are only available for a single island kingdom :rage::wink:)

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Fantastic episode.
At the beginning, I needed some minutes to adjust—it was too sweet for my taste. And there was a “Martha moment” (Batman v Superman) with Susan. What a stretch…
But then I remembered: It’s Davies. It’s storytelling via emotions, not so much logic. And then it clicked, and even the stretched-out parts worked because they just gave room for the emotions.
Ncuti’s performance: just unbelievably good.
The rest of the cast: just top-notch.
Looking very much forward to the finale next week.

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Wow that was definitely the first part of an RTD two parter!

I agree a lot with what @ChrisStokes said, it was a little disappointing. I watched it on my own but imagine if I had a non-fan watch with me they would have been totally lost and rolling their eyes. It relied a bit too much on the things that have been going on this season.

“Do you remember being an ambulance?”

I am glad Susan was a fake out although with all the talk about his Granddaughter (and the little tidbit that he hasn’t had a child yet?!?) that it does get resolved in the near future and we see the real Susan. Otherwise it’s quite cheap to keep bringing her up.

I hope Cherry Sunday is okay and she gets her cup of tea, but Mrs Flood is very scary now!

Loved the design of Sutekh. The image of it wrapped around the TARDIS was brilliant.

I will reserve judgement until the second half! Watching this in the cinema next week, exciting!

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With two-parters, I tend to see them very much as one story, so this story very much hinges on next week, and I’m not rating it until then.

I do love the B-52s, so there’s that. Mel was great. Really not sure why the Doctor can’t just materialise the TARDIS in UNIT like a normal person.

Cloaked figure seems even more like the Trickster, and the Trickster was name-dropped. Ruby feels very in line with all these other people planted here and there for various reasons.

I’d heard speculation about Sutekh before going into this one, so not really a surprise there.

Intense episode, we’ll see what happens. And Disney+ manifested ads all through this episode…

Also, please tell me that next season, the Doctor actually goes looking for Susan…

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It really feels like they are building up to that. I started to think that the new companion might be Susan.

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At the moment, the companion is Mel. Hope nothing happens to her.

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Ooh imagine 15, Ruby, Mel, and Varada Sethu as Susan as the TARDIS team for all of season 2 :heart_eyes:

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So I just thought, the strange noise the TARDIS has been making, was that Sutekh’s tummy rumbling?

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I’d so love that. Partially because I like her as a classic companion, but she’s also been great in every appearance in the modern era so far.

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And why hasn’t he just, say, eaten the Doctor when he stepped in the TARDIS or some such?

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I feel like these gods have been more about doing things the fun way not the fast way.

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Ah that classic Cyndi Lauper song “Gods just want to have fun” :grin:

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Pretty much…

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