Episode Discussion: Space Babies

it’s such a beautiful exposition moment, to be honest–it shows us exactly what their dynamic is.

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This moment between the Doctor and Poppy is so beautiful🥹

POPPY: We’re not meant to be like this. Did we grow up wrong?
DOCTOR: Oh, Poppy. Oh, Popsicle. Look at me. Look at me. Nobody grows up wrong. You are what you are, and that is magnificent.
POPPY: But Mummy and Daddy left us.
DOCTOR: That’s okay. Mine did, too.
POPPY: What happened?
DOCTOR: Well, I was found.
POPPY: Hooray!
DOCTOR: Yeah. Little baby me was left alone in the middle of outer space, and guess who took me in.
POPPY: I don’t know.
DOCTOR: The Time Lords.
POPPY: Ooo.
DOCTOR: Can you say it like me?
POPPY: The Time Lords.
DOCTOR: That’s it, P-P-P-P-Pop. But the point is, is that it doesn’t matter where I come from, because I am absolutely lovely, aren’t I?
(Poppy yawns.)
DOCTOR: That wasn’t rhetorical, Pops.
POPPY: Yes, you are.
DOCTOR: And do you want to know my secret? There’s no one like me in the whole wide universe. No one like me exists, and that’s true of everyone.
It’s not a problem, Captain Pops. It’s a superpower. High five. Yeah.
POPPY: Yeah!

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Imagine starting your season with Space Babies.

Oh, they did.

:poop: :put_litter_in_its_place:

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It is a great episode and I will die on that hill!

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I like it more and more each time I rewatch it!

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I need to rewatch tbh. Usually I only rewatch a season when its airing, I’ll rewatch it during the week before the next one but only if I really liked it. Also I rewatch bits during reaction vids on youtube!

From memory though, I feel on rewatch I’ll get annoyed by all the snow/ruby road mentions given how that panned out :sob:

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Reflecting on this Episode, Eh.
Do I see it as the weakest Series/Season (personally speaking)? No.
Is it THAT different compared to an RTD Opener like New Earth (in my Eyes)? No.
Do I like it? Also, no.
I think there are a lot of Issues in that Episode. The Farting Humor is just something I don’t think ever works in Who. Who can deal with Comedy quite well, that said this kind of Humor leaves me personally very cold and feels jarring. The Babies and their Effect don’t quite work in Live Action and there will be always something offputting of their Mouth. There is a lot of Exposition at the Beginning, which fair but almost feels like we are checking a Checklist, Exposition doesn’t have to feel like that. And there are a few other Things, which just don’t work for me.
I think in many ways it falls in the same issues that a lot of the campy/silly RTD penned Scripts do. And that’s honestly a personal Thing really, Who can and should be silly at times. That said, I find RTD kinda goes a bit over the board with it when he does it, like here where the constant Mention of the Title feels like a humorous Attempt to make a Point how self-aware they are about the absurd Concept. This by itself isn’t a bad Thing, but the amount it’s done can quite be annoying.
That is not to say all of it is bad, Ncuti, Millie and a lot of the other Cast Members do a good Job in their Performance. Millie’s Make-Up for the Butterfly Effect is quite nicely done. I appreciate the Ambition of this absurd Concept, which while I don’t think is quite suited to Live Action. And the Bogeyman has quite a nice Design. There are also some lovely Scenes like 15’s and Poppy’s Exchange for example.

Overall, it’s not the worst of this Era (in my personal Opinion), but it lefts a lot to desire. Some wonderful Things can be found here, but I think the bad Things do kinda brought it down for me.

Still, I am glad to see there were quite a few People who enjoy this Story!

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I personally love it, and have done since it aired. Is it perfect, no. But it’s really enjoyable and the kind of silly and dramatic stuff that Doctor Who is able to do, it doesn’t always have to be serious and dark all of the time, the great thing about Doctor Who is it’s ability to tell multi-genre stories. I found myself smiling and laughing so much throughout that episode, and also weeping at multiple scenes like the Doctor’s speech with Poppy, and when the Doctor tells Ruby he can’t take her back to Ruby Ruby in 2004. I love the parallels drawn with the Space Babies to the Doctor and Ruby, having a story about abandoned children was a great way to start the series.

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How would you improve Space Babies? With and without the talking babies, perhaps with 7 year old children instead.

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You just made it so much worse!!

:wink:

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Space Babes, minus the Babes?

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Cut out the Grotesque/Fart Humor. I think that would make the Episode much more tonal consistent.

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Easy. Unmake it.

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I mean, they actually did cut some of the fart humour, based on the script…

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You are telling me there was MORE?! :sob:

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I think that it is a great episode as it is.

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THE DOCTOR
But now! Listen. Babies. Space babies. Your home is over there.
(points out of the window)

The world of Mondo Caroon. But! You can’t get there, you’ve got no
engines. Except! Turns out, that build up of pressure in Hull-3-B is
from YOU! Cos the system went wrong and that’s where it stacked
up all your nappies. No wonder it was stinking down there. For 6
years, a great big pile of…

JOCELYN
Nanny filter.

THE DOCTOR
…shizzle, a zillion metric tonnes of methane, babies. Space babies. But I am going… To let it rip!

He stabs BUTTONS!

CUT TO:
EXT. SPACE STATION66 66

Two HUGE GATES on the side of the Babystation SWING OPEN,
FAST, in a HUGE BLAST of GREEN GAS! Booooooomffff! Powerful
enough to MOVE the entire station! The whole thing heaves…

CUT TO:
Episode 1 - SHOOTING SCRIPT - 11.03.23 54.
Episode 1 - SHOOTING SCRIPT - 11.03.23 55.
INT. CONTROL ROOM, SPACE STATION67 67

EVERYONE lurches, woah!

CUT TO:
INT. SPACE STATION68 68
And the entire STATION glides away. Leaving Pacifico del Rio
behind. Sailing majestically into space, the PLANETS beyond.

CUT TO:
INT. CONTROL ROOM, SPACE STATION69 69

THE DOCTOR
Set sail, for your new home!

RUBY
Wait a minute. Did you just fart a space station out of orbit?

THE DOCTOR
Hull-3-B, that’s what the 3 Bs stand for. Big Bum Blast.

All the babies LAUGH!

RUBY
Doctor!

THE DOCTOR
Baby Botty Boom.

All the babies LAUGH!

RUBY
Stop it.
(pause)
Big Backside Burp.

All the babies LAUGH! Jocelyn too. The Doctor hooting, high-
fives Ruby! Then HUGS her, both laughing.

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Possibly the most overhated episode in modern doctor who history

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“Great” might be overselling it.

“Good” might be the correct adjective here :wink:

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