Episode Discussion: Lux

That’s true. I’ve been trying to avoid the leaks thread but I’ll have to give that one a look.

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Spoonheads return confirmed!

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We need “Running Up and Down Corridors” or “All These Corridors Look the Same” :sweat_smile:

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Do we have “I’ll explain later” as a trope?

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It was nicked by Mel’s Zingo.

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Where there is Maestro, there is a spoon.
Where there is Sutekh, there is a spoon.
Where there is Lux, there is a spoon.

Every time the Doctor comes across one of the Pantheon[1], there is a spoon.

So it therefore tracks that Mrs Flood is the god of spoons because when you wash one in the sink water goes everywhere!

time and the spoons
time and the spoons


  1. apart from the Toymaker, shh ↩︎

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Will go more in detail in a bit, but in short, a 7/10 story 10/10 effects, overall given it an 8

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My parents, who have been checked out from Doctor Who for ~10 years, happened to catch Lux and thought it was absolutely brilliant, top tier stuff.

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Having just seen it once I’d say it was a 9/10. I actually particularly liked the ending. On first thoughts I thought the ending was very strange / conceptual / different from anything I’ve seen in the show before.

My brother said the ending reminded him of Tooth and Claw but better executed.

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This was fuuuuun, I really vibed with this episode.
But the fans missed the opportunity to shock the Doctor to death by saying their favorite stories were ones where really weird and/or sad things happen…

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Imagine looking Fifteen dead in the eyes and saying ‘Scherzo’. That’ll give him a good reason for doing his trademark Single Tear in a mix of horror, sadness and self-consciousness. ‘What happened in tha-’ ‘Belinda, how about we stop talking for a little while’.

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“So you remember that time you blew up some Daleks in 1963? And you met those scientists? Or the time you left Leela on Gallifrey and abandoned Romana to be the President? Well my favourite episodes are about them, sorry”

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Admittedly, it would’ve been nice if they all had different favorite episodes, and at least one of them was classic. I mean, you’re telling me the guy wearing a tom baker scarf and a UNIT shirt’s favorite episode isn’t in classic who?

Edit: And he has a K9 mug!

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“Remember when you went to Earth to stop the Daleks and Susan, Alex and Luci-” he just punches me in the face :slight_smile:

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Lux - 8/10

I absolutely adore classic and revival who, but as much as I love them, the CGI doesn’t always hold up decades on.

The Five Doctors is a story that I think is brilliant, balancing the fanservice, multiple doctors, multiple enemies, lore reveals, brilliantly, with being able to tell a spectacular story, but the one thing that always sticks in my mind when I watch it back with friends, is the time scoop. A silly little triangle floats down on screen, and we get a freeze frame of our characters. It’s utterly hilarious how it doesn’t hold up, and while I love it, it does take you out of the story a little.

Lux, in contrast, is a story I think we’ll be looking back at in 40+ years and be astounded at. Every second Mr Ring-a-Ding is on screen just works. The cold open especially is one of the absolute bests in the show’s history, Mr Ring-a-Ding crawling from the screen is spectacular, and really does just show the scale of the villian, you can’t not be hooked.

As for the rest of the story itself, I think it’s a wonderful blend of Scooby Doo (as the characters themselves point out), and The Giggle. A god-like being trapped in a closed down cinema with a caretaker at night, where 15 people have gone missing, that being using their powers, trapping The Doctor and the companion in a world relating to that medium, it’s so so good, I can’t help but love it.

I do think the 4th-wall break, while fun, did somewhat bring the episode’s pacing to a screeching halt, and used up time that could’ve been devoted to better fleshing out the ending. I do enjoy Lux’s defeat, and I think it’s an interesting twist on the way the rest of the pantheon we’ve encountered so far have been defeated, but I do think that explaining the actual mechanics of it a little more might’ve helped the story somewhat. The missing 15 suddenly returning as well felt like an obvious ending, but the actual mechanics of how they did aren’t really explained. It makes emotional sense, which is what I think should always be prioritised, but less so on the logic front.

As a final note, I do also have to give credit though to the side cast. Everything we get with them in just brilliant. They’re no Silence in the Library or Under the Lake, but they’ve all got very clear characters and motivations, they’re entertaining to watch, and none of them are forgettable.

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What’s your favourite episode

(simultaneously)
“Blink”
“Blink”
“Delta and the Bannermen”

both turn to stare

clears throat “I mean Blink”

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“What’s your favourite adventure?”

“Blink!”
“Blink!”
“The one with the stone statue…”
“Blink?”
“No, Bok, in The Dæmons.”
“Right…”

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It would’ve also been fun to have them start naming favorite companions and then have Belinda going off about how many other companions he’s previously had…

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Only to get into a debate about the definition of a companion, of course

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Of course!

And get side tracked into discussing the Big Finish Gallifrey series, while the Doctor tries to take it all in…

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