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Ok WOW, I really liked that episode. The visuals were on POINT, that whole section where they were stuck in the film was so cool! The fashion was real fun too! And as cheesy as it is, I really liked the goofy meta stuff. Love me some goofy cheesy camp in Doctor Who.
My one gripe is that I didnât really get the ending? Like Iâm about to rewatch it, because Luxâs defeat felt kinda abrupt and outta nowhere to me, and I wanna make sure I understand why he stopped fighting lol.
TLDR: Had a TON of fun with this one!!! Cannot wait to see what comes next!
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I find most RTD endings are like this personally. Certainly all of the âgodsâ weâve encountered so far have been defeated by anticlimactic and kinda nonsensical means.
But I think thatâs the main challenge when it creating huge and cosmically important enemiesâif something is that powerful, almost any mechanism of defeat will feel unsatisfying!
When I think about how previous stories featuring godlike entities have pulled it off I think of stuff the The Curse of Fenricâwhere Fenric is defeated by small means, but those means feel earned because they resonate with the themes of the story and have an emotional toll that shakes the Doctor and Aceâs relationship. That makes it feel earned narratively. Part of the reason why the ending of Lux felt a bit unsatisfying to me was that there was no emotional cost.
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Yeah, just finished rewatching the ending, and while yeah it is a bit unsatisfying, I think I like it a bit more now that I have a better idea of why it happened.
I do agree with you about the episode themes playing a role though. Definitely what makes me like the ending of Devilâs Chord more, with Maestro being defeated because of that creative spark, music being impactful to people and whatnot.
But yeah, all in all, Iâm more ok with it now.
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Has anyone brought up the use of the phrase âLux Imperatorâ in this episode yet? The use of Latin words (imperator = emperor/general) may be a reference to Gallifrey, where many names are classical allusions. Iâm not delusional enough to think itâs a reference to Imperiatrix, or indeed the Imperator (a Time Lord in Faction Paradox I think?) but it still evokes Gallifrey to me, especially since (one would think that) this âpantheonâ is similar to the Time Lords, who a) have been perceived as gods by other civilisations and b) have many myths that turn out to be real, like Zagreus and Pandora.
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I mean, Pye had to let Belinda kill his wife and then he sacrificed himself, those are emotional costs?
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Oh, thatâs true! And I wish we saw more of him. I suppose I didnât connect that as directly to Luxâs defeat but itâs definitely there.
(I also am quite tired of the âside character sacrifices themselves to save the dayâ trope in Who. But I thought this was a decent executionâPye seeing his wife was a great moment.)
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If the episode was longer i def think ppl would love it more.
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I actually should make that a trope.
The worst one was Ko Sharmus cos the Doctor just⌠lets him do it, like âokay thanks for your service! You were great! Have a happy death!â 
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Exactly! It only really works when the character and their motivation has been properly built up. Thats why Pye works for me and Ko Sharmus doesnât!
Although on reflection I would have liked a moment from Belinda and the Doctor remembering Pye at the end. He was a bit forgotten in that final sceneâor was there a line that I missed?
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We have so manh tropes I donât really know exactly some of them means. Some of them are not wxactly obvious e.g. The Doctor Falls means the dotor trips or falls down in a story, rather than what the title of that tv episode meansâŚ
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Yes I am planning to make a page that explains them all, we have explanations for most of them written down in the Staff area but Iâll make a public page.
If I can, Iâll do that tonight.
The Doctor Falls is a silly one that someone suggested and itâs literally just any story where he falls over.
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@ineffyble, that was. What a great idea lol
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Why do all of the Pantheon eps have a spoon in? Is Mrs Flood the God of Spoons?
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I cannot for the life of me even begin to speculate why every pantheon episode seems to be going out of its way to highlight spoons
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Koquillion explored this but itâs in the âspeculation and leaksâ thread.
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No spoon in The Giggle, though.
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Sylvester McCoy in The Reality War confirmed! 
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Ok so I WASNâT the only one to notice spooky spoons related to gods. I canât believe Mrs. Flood blew up the world from amassing an army of spoons.
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One might say a spoon platoon 
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