Episode Discussion: Lucky Day

What is the other show?

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Black Mirror maybe?

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The Rookie
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1.5m for Lucky Day :frowning:

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Oh no #RIPDOCTORWHO!!! It’s all over!! What will we do…

If only overnights didn’t matter :wink:

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Also, it was apparently quite a low night overall for the BBC:

Overall, it was BBC One’s third most-watched programme of the day, behind The Hit List Celebrity Special and Casualty. It was a low night all-round for BBC One which failed to break 2m all night.

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The snooker was on at the same time, which might’ve pulled people away

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Also as we’ve seen from the +7’s and will see from the +28’s, most people in the modern age watch on catch up. Especially now it’s available early!

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I like that the finale will be dropping live basically

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Yeah this is a risk of dropping it in spring when weather is good

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I think people will watch when they want as many have pointed out in the modern age of streaming and catch up everything is down. Not making it event TV won’t help the immediate overnights but overnights do not matter

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Can’t decide whether this was a 9/10 or 10/10 for me!

Literally adored it. For a Doctor Lite episode it was so so so enjoyable. Maybe I’m biased because I love Ruby, UNIT and modern day earth-bound stories, but STILL this episode really set up so much for the finale, especially with Conrad and Mrs Flood :eyes:

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@Speechless, @Cal, @RandomJoke, @amazingamphy and others have articulated my issues with the episode well, especially with how it falls apart under any scrutiny. While the message is good and relevant, it just wasn’t executed very well and was hard to engage with even while watching it the first time with my critical brain off.

TBH I found watching the Australian federal election coverage more engaging lol

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One thing I really liked was an exploration of what conspiracy theorists would be like in the Doctor Who universe. In ours, they believe aliens exist and we’re being lied to. In a world where aliens demonstrably exist, they think they don’t and we’re being lied to.

The implications being that it’s a need to be lied to, or more insidiously just the need to spread misinformation to get rid of a sense of pathetic powerlessness and feel more important. That’s why Conrad was so infuriating for me. Rejecting the evidence of his own eyes.

Seeing the Doctor and Ruby in 2024, they’re not doing that for an audience, clearly. Yet he chooses to commit to a lie. It was more involved a story than first glance might imply and why it’s my second favourite of the season so far (The Well still being top).

I also didn’t mind Kate in this. Both she and the Doctor show their teeth to Conrad and, as someone who is increasingly becoming unfortunately convinced that the tolerance of intolerant beliefs is getting us nowhere but somewhere worse and worse, l think sometimes the heroes need to. It’s interesting in the conversations it brings up, but do I personally think Kate went too far? No.

Do I personally think the Doctor went too far? No.

Proven by the fact that neither worked and Conrad finishes the episode the piece of shit he had been up to that point.

Rising above the enemy only works with the comfort of them being outnumbered. That doesn’t look like the case any more and, as much as it’d be nice not to have to, fighting on their level is regrettably necessary sometimes, especially when the truth gets weaponised to the point where people just bluntly dismiss it.

The imagery of UNIT pointing their guns at the livestreamers is of course uncomfortable but in-story that’s used as a weapon by a savvy villain against them. I think it possibly uses that imagery ever so slightly irresponsibly given real world parallels but does work in-universe for me. But it does muddy the waters with how the story presents everything.

It’s therefore still a 7/10 for me after first watching and having slept on it. But I’m thinking a lot about this episode still and it may creep up on a rewatch, who knows?

Also, Shirley rules.

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I love how 15 just snaps his fingers and he teleports him away from the TARDIS.so cool.

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“the thlot pickens”

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The thlot pickens?

Huh?

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I didn’t read the caption apparently :joy:

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Something which also struck me was how this mirrors Love & Monsters a little. Up until the switch, I was actually a bit ‘oh, this is just retreading Love & Monsters’ - kid who met the Doctor and grows up wanting to find them. Sees the Doctor and companion facing off against a monster that’s all teeth and roars. Has a like-minded group of friends. He, up to that point was very Elton.

So the rug pull that he was the baddie and actually the antithesis of Elton was great as it subverted where I thought the story was going.

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