Audio Club Extra: Gallifrey 2.1 - Lies

By popular demand, Audio Club Extra rolls on into Series 2 of Gallifrey with the first episode: Lies.

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This was probably my favourite of this series so far. I liked the discussions between Romana 1 and 2. I have some trouble with knowing who’s who among the men in the story and I think my enjoyment of the story would be greater if this was not the case. 4/5

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yayy hi Mary Tamm!! This episode rocks :slight_smile:

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Honestly my favourite episode so far, I absolutely loved the back-and-forth between the two Romanas

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The short version of my thoughts is that I adore this episode, I love all the banter between so many different characters, the dialogue is truly excellent, I love both Romana i and ii and also Leela, it’s got so much interesting plot. The longer version of my thoughts is under a cut because there kept being so many good things that I had to get them out while listening.

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  • Brax is so funny
  • Romana I !!!
  • Wait baby Romana I? Or academy romana anyway
  • everybody hates the academy :laughing:
  • Brax has amazing banter
  • Failing her exams on purpose awww she’s just like me (ignore what that says about my mental state)
  • Theme tune !!! So fun
  • Not xenophobic my ass
  • […]Plotting and scheming. Aren’t you? Of course amazing quote
  • She is my president he’s so loyal but also hateful
  • Loving the banter between Narvin and Darkel
  • Wow this got intense
  • Do I not hold the rod of Rassilon? etc. :laughing:
  • I love Romana, she’s so passionate and abusing her power constantly
  • These timeline things are so weirdly fascinating
  • They call me president know-it-all and not just in the academy Romana I love you
  • No friends for Romana?? :pleading_face:
  • Also I don’t like Andred, he’s so mean, Leela is better off without him
  • I love how ruthless Romana is, she’s such a bad person
  • I control your future that’s hot
  • Oh he still loves Leela
  • K9 using Leela’s terms is so cute
  • Are you happy K9? :pleading_face:
  • Oh Leela
  • She’s so sad
  • The disdain in her voice when she says Narvin
  • I adore her instincts, she’s got such a specific type of intelligence
  • Andred and Darkel are both being so manipulative
  • Romana called him Brax!
  • our scheme :laughing:
  • Also she’s just using her power as she sees fit he’s totally right, but he’s also kind of power-hungry
  • Stop being so wretched and obsequitous about it I adore how she says that
  • Also I love her
  • Apparently I don’t have a sense of humor just like me for real
  • What’s up with that icemaiden phrase? Brax’s reaction is very weird
  • You are appreciated! that’s cute
  • I’m not allowed friends no Romana bad don’t say that
  • I have learned that Romana will think this a good plan she’s so cute
  • Romana’s rant on the use of literally is so cute
  • K9 is wonderful
  • Her relief at Leela showing up
  • Romana is not very nice to Leela
  • the storage methods :laughing:
  • What the ■■■■ do these spirits want
  • Interesting lore
  • And parallels so many parallels
  • This unit does not have feelings, Mistress. That is untrue, K9 aww
  • If we could move on from the emotional support group session :laughing:
  • I really don’t like Andred
  • Brax and Narvin are so fun
  • Leela is really so loyal, I love that
  • K9 is her friend awww
  • Leela and Romana I have such banter
  • Romana murdering Romana? I mean the regeneration out of nowhere was certainly something, I’ve been wondering about that
  • Ooohhh what’s happening now in the political intrigue
  • She’s far sharper than you think and even sharper than Romana II thinks in my opinion
  • Oh they’re working together that’s cool
  • yes, why did you kill yourself Romana
  • the more I learn about Brax the more grateful I’ve become he’s on my side. our side so am I he’s such an interesting character but keeps it so close so you don’t know
  • Oh Narvin not sleeping is important? I thought it just contributed to his characterisation as stressed and overworked
  • Brax reluctantly saving Narvin :laughing:
  • Okay I like the way Narvin’s loyalty works
  • Ooohhh no one ever tells me anything exciting! :pleading_face:
  • No wonder Romana keeps trying to kill herself
  • K9 remind me to listen to you when you interrupt me the dialogue is just excellent
  • Interesting plot
  • Leela soft! :face_holding_back_tears:
  • I could feel the deceit in the air haha
  • You are learning Romana appreciate Leela more please and thank you
  • Why did you shoot Narvin? Not that I’m complaining :laughing:
  • Romana and Brax friendship only beat by Romana and Leela friendship

In total my favourite episode yet
How am I supposed to survive another year of this without exploding though if they keep being so good?

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The Brax/Romana stuff is so good.

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yayyyy I’m so glad you enjoyed it!! “Narvin not sleeping is important? I thought it just contributed to his characterisation as stressed and overworked” LMAO yeah so true they love to make him suffer and so do I :slight_smile: I agreed with all your thoughts, it brought me a great amount of joy to read them

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I’m very glad you enjoyed my thoughts! Tbh, I was a little worried that I’d started hyping these ones up to myself too much and end up disappointing myself, but they keep being so good?! And actually pacing myself really helps my enjoyment too. I feel like I’ve really found my part of doctor who to be obsessed with.
Also Narvin really gives off so strong “please just leave me all alone and let me do my ■■■■■■■ job” vibes, this really is horrible for him :laughing: and Brax mindwipes him at the end too, poor guy

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Muhahahaha see my dastardly ‘get everyone obsessed with Gallifrey’ scheme is working!!! Today it’s calling Narvin ‘poor guy’, before you know it you love him completely

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Eh.

That’s about all my thoughts on Lies.

I’m actually kind of shocked to see this be such a popular story, because this just feels like a whole load of nothing to me. Set up with some tiresome exposition and a nice cast, that’s my opinions on the story in full.

Sure the conversations are quaint but there aren’t any cool ideas I can get wrapped up in or any significant character growth I can analyse, it just feels like the point where Gallifrey’s formula starts eating itself.

I’m still optimistic about Season Two, this just felt like set-up to me.

Full review here. If you enjoy, feel free to drop a like:

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I like how this ties into the TV show and addresses Romana’s regeneration. A bit more Romana backstory was nice, but this wasn’t as compelling of a beginning as Weapon of Choice was for Series 1. Still, I’m hopeful Series 2 will become intriguing. I imagine that will come from Narvin and Darkel.

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Is it primarily set up? Yes. Is it really good set up? Yes! This is when the series starts to sparkle. The dialogue is perfection. A story where the entire run time is literally “everyone is just talking to each other” is naturally very easy to be boring but everyone brings their A-game and takes some phenomenal dialogue and gives it the performances it deserves. We catch up with everyone, we find the state of Gallifrey since A Blind Eye, and the first plays of the chess match that will inevitably define the next two seasons of Gallifrey are made. Mate in 9.

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Twice the Romana, twice the fun!

'Nuff Said :sunglasses:

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I enjoyed this one. Yes, it’s a lot of setup, laying down plot threads and introducing new characters. Pandora, Wynter and Darkel will be playing major parts over the next two seasons. Mary Tamm will continue to be around. So yes, this is a lot of setup and lore. But, the cast does great and the dialogue is wonderful. As I’ve said before Gallifrey, while it seems like a lot of talking in rooms and hallways, is primarily loved for the characters and their arcs across the series. It’s definitely worth it seeing the pieces fall into place.

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Lies - 8/10

Setup, but done really nicely here.

I love the character interactions we get here, Brax and Romana, Leela and Romana, Romana and Romana… Okay mostly I just love what we get of Romana here, but in my defence, Romana’s really good.

Brax’s interactions with Narvin here are also pretty nice, I like his confession of what he’s doing with time travel, and then his, glee isn’t the right word, but just how quick he is to suggest a mind wipe of Narvin after the events of the story.

Romana 1’s appearance was an unexpected surprise, but it was great for the story. I love the backstory we get for Romana here, her childhood, Brax mentally manipulating her, the retconning her reason for regeneration in the main show. In another writer/actor’s hands it could be a lazy excuse to retcon out a somewhat out of character moment for Romana from the show, but here it’s elevated, adding a sense of intrigue about her origins, and setting up what I assume is the ongoing thread of this season.

Also a last note, I like the worldbuilding touch that the myth of Pandora is universal, that every world has some equivalent of it.

I have to wait half a week until the next episode?! :C

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You know you can just listen to it ahead of time…

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Shhhhhhhhhh /j

In all seriousness, I mostly want to have it fresh in mind for the club, so tend to wait for the threads to drop before reading anything or listening to them

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Don’t tempt me, waiting is hard enough as it is😆

But honestly, I love the schedule because I get to listen to these stories I already fell in love with as a treat after every hard week of uni. Always gives me something to look forward to.

Also if I continue at this rate (and I plan to, no matter whether we continue it as a club) I should be caught up around the next release

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Okay, if I must… (Like I really need and excuse to listen to Spirit :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:)

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I listened to Weapon of Choice for the club, forgot to write my thoughts down at the time, and now it’s lesbianism ( cough, sorry, I mean Spirit ) NEXT WEEK?

Time flies! I really need to catch to with this club…

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