When I say run.. RUN! - The Second Doctor Thread

After surprisingly discovering there was no general twelfth Doctor Thread for quite a while until now, it got me thinking, which other Doctors don’t have a general Thread on their own, which brought me to Realization that the second Doctor didn’t have his own Thread.

Anyway, please do use it to share your Thoughts on this Incarnation, the Companions, his Era, both on- and off-screen and anything relating to him. Both positive, negative or just neutral!

And remember.. Macras do not exist!

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Which, again, means screenshots…






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The best classic Doctor. This is a hill I’m ready to die on, and this opinion cannot be shifted. He’s inherently the Doctor to me, and the first incarnation to fully feel like the Doctor—silly, yet serious; human, yet alien; kind, yet dangerous when need be. It’s also down to Troughton’s very expressive performance, of course. And the fact that he travels with one of the best companions (Jamie; that bromance is so good) and one of the best TARDIS teams (Jamie and Zoe).

He’s an underrated incarnation, mostly because so many of his episodes remain missing. I hope the new animations help people realise his greatness.

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They executed him for the crime of being too silly. Fly high, angel.

While Two isn’t my favourite Doctor, Patrick Troughton’s performance makes this era work. Every scene (that still survives) has a million quirky little sub-mannerisms that add so much character and detail into the performance.

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No need to die on the hill if it is just straight up fact.

Troughton is not only the most important Doctor (he proved it could continue after Hartnell couldn’t do it any longer), but also the one who most other actors base their performances on.

Baker; Davison; McCoy; Smith; they all have elements of Pat in their Doctors.

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I am standing beside you on this hill!

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He’s not my favourite Doctor or even my favourite classic but every time I watch a serial of his I realise that one day he genuinely might be. Troughton is just an absolute delight to watch, and plays the role so fantastically

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Honestly, if more of his episodes had survived, he might’ve been. I love seeing him on the screen, but animation and recons aren’t the same.

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After Fourteen, the Second Doctor is the main numbered incarnation I’ve experienced the least of - according to the character tracker, I’m only at 21 stories for him (compared with 44 for the First Doctor and 43 for the Third Doctor, for example). This is mostly because a lot of his onscreen stories are missing, and I’m not in a huge rush to watch the animated reconstructions. I do like what I’ve seen of Troughton’s performance, and as others have said he’s probably one of the most important contributors to the longevity of the show. Once I get back to and finish Hartnell’s run, I plan to spend a lot more time going through Troughton’s era and the EU stuff associated with it.

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It was late afternoon, one Saturday in 1967. I was in my grandparents’ lounge and Grandpa was sat in his armchair watching a TV programme with a particularly eerie theme tune. I’d never heard anything like it—it made my skin crawl, but in a good way!

I was kneeling at a small table that was covered in LEGO, appropriately enough, building a toy spaceship. Of course it was a very traditional looking rocket ship because I had yet to learn that a space vehicle could look like a telephone box.

The setting of the story seemed as spooky as the music, a creepy old house where a young man was hiding in the shadowy corridors. “Why is that man wearing a dress?” I asked. “It’s a kilt, he’s Scottish, shush!” was Grandpa’s short reply (I might mention here that during the war, my grandfather had been a Seaforth Highlander).

My attention returned to the LEGO spaceship, but not for long. It was the strange robotic creature gliding out of a wall that grabbed my attention. It had a harsh, grating voice as it barked orders at some old men, one of whom was called the Doctor.

I scooted out from behind the table and practically threw myself down on the carpet in front of the television set. My heart was pounding. “What… is… that?” I gasped.

I didn’t see my grandfather’s face, but I can imagine him smiling as he replied: “That is a Dalek.”

I barely had time to process the name before the episode swept me up in its eerie music and strange, shadowy world. Already I was hooked on this new (to me) television series called The Adventures of Jamie. Well, that’s what I called it for at least two weeks. What else would it be called? After all, the incredibly brave highlander was obviously the hero. However, as much as I liked Jamie I absolutely adored the bad robot. What had Grandpa called it again? A… Dar-lick?

Over the next few weeks, I had some adjustments to make. The television series I had fallen in love with was not, in fact, called The Adventures of Jamie. Nor was it entirely set in a mansion or in Victorian times. This funny little Doctor was the real star of the show, and I was quickly warming to him.

Joining the series midway through The Evil of the Daleks had caused me a certain amount of confusion, and it didn’t help that, at the end of the story, Doctor Who took a break. Thankfully, when the series returned in September, the Doctor and Jamie put me straight on a few matters as they ushered a girl called Victoria into…

Wait—was that a police box? What was that doing there? Were the Doctor, Jamie, and Victoria meant to be inside it? But that couldn’t be right, because they were clearly standing inside the control room of… a spaceship? I was confused again.

Watching Victoria’s wide-eyed disbelief as the Doctor introduced her to the TARDIS, I felt a little better. I wasn’t the only one struggling to make sense of this strange new world. It was just as well, then, that the Doctor and Jamie helpfully explained the show’s premise—to her, to me, and to goodness knows how many other children watching that day. Every adventure is someone’s starting point, and I began afresh with The Tomb of the Cybermen.

I quickly learned that you couldn’t take anything for granted with Doctor Who. During The Evil of the Daleks’ climactic battle between warring factions of the metal meanies, one of them had its top blown off. Inside was a bubbling mass of living matter, which made me realise that the Daleks were not, after all, robots, but metal shells with creatures inside them.

Likewise, the Cybermen—or, as I called them, the Cider-men (no, that’s not a joke; I really did call them that)—weren’t robots either. They were once people who had transformed themselves into machine-beings, and they’d do the same to you if they caught you—eek!

The Yeti, on the other hand, looked like living creatures—but they turned out to be robots. Doctor Who certainly kept me on my toes.

If I had been impressed by the Emperor Dalek’s throne room (and, my goodness, I had been), then I was even more impressed by the sets for the Cybermen’s tomb. Not that I thought of them as sets at that age—oh, don’t get me wrong, I knew this was fiction, but the TARDIS interior, the Dalek city, and now the Cybermen’s base looked so good as to be entirely believable to my young eyes.

Now, I’m aware that my previous statement might sound somewhat implausible to someone raised on super high-definition colour television. It’s true that vintage 1960s Doctor Who has often been mocked for its cheap production values. But I think you have to consider the small black-and-white screen I was watching the series on. Then there’s the fact that most BBC dramas of that era had a stage-like quality—barely one step removed from theatre. If Doctor Who’s sets occasionally wobbled, then so did the sets from Dixon of Dock Green. That was just the way things were back then, and I accepted it. Any rough edges were effortlessly smoothed by my youthful imagination.

In 1967, I didn’t have much homegrown sci-fi to compare Doctor Who with. At age four, going on five, my usual fantastical fare consisted of some rather splendid puppet shows—Fireball XL5, Space Patrol, Thunderbirds, and, new kid on the block, Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons. Of course, there were the flashy American imports, but I think I had a mental partition between homegrown and overseas telly that, in those early years, prevented me from comparing Doctor Who’s production values with those of The Invaders and Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. Besides, at that age, I wasn’t really analysing sets, costumes, or effects. I was far too absorbed in the adventure.

It’s a shame we lose that sense of childlike wonder as we grow older. I’ve fought hard to keep it, but I haven’t always been successful. Perhaps that is why those magical far off days of the 1960s remain my favourite era of television viewing.

Patrick Troughton was my Doctor. And you know what, he still is.

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Damn a lot of Doctors were missing it seems. I should do a whole rewatch of his era tbh, its a crime so many of his episodes are missing, such a good actor, and set the archetype most likely to be mimicked by later actors

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Thank you for sharing this! Absolutely lovely read

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This hill is going to get a bit crowded.

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Lovely to read all the replies, glad to see so much love for him, after all, he is a firm favorite of mine (and how can’t he be, I mean look at him! How can you not love him? :smiling_face_with_three_hearts: )

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