Was Freema booted from the show? Was Catherine Tate?
Single series companions is something RTD likes to do. It was only the tabloids that said she was “booted”.
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“I just got snowmanned”
“Heath and safety, gin and tonic division”
“I’m learning the language of rope”
“Time travellers are like, wow. The goblins are just bumbling” (can’t remember exact wording)
“Space Babies!”
(Kylie is playing) “classiiiiiiiic”
There’s so much more weird and oddball stuff he says, I could keep going.
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My forever favorite: “Oh my god, I don’t have any chairs” said with the upmost feeling
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None of that is weird. That’s the kind of speech I’d expect (and see often) from hip girls who spend most of their time online and had/have tons of friends in school.
And I don’t understand how fanboying over a popular singer (especially one that is mostly famous in the country of the show’s origin) would make people look at you strangely.
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I would say that he acts as alien as 2, 3, 5, and 8 do. Not every incarnation needs to be like 6 and 11, which feel more alien.
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And that’s why I don’t particularly care for Three’s or Five’s characterization either 
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I like 3 and 11, but not 5 and 6 (sorry). To me, this is not that important as a trait for the Doctor.
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Reading all this, I’m remembering that toxic trait as a DW fan is that I don’t really like the show for Mx Dr Who 
I’m in it for the companions and side characters (hence I am intrigued and excitedby Belinda)
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100% agree with most of this. I think something’s missing that’s keeping me from getting invested with this era.
Especially what you said about Fifteen, he is far, far too human. And I say this as somebody who enjoys Gatwa’s performance, I truly do not think he is characterised the same as any other incarnation.
In fact, at this point, I don’t really think of him and other incarnations as the same character. It’s not a conscious thing I decided, I just don’t link 15’s portrayal with the rest of the show on a purely subconscious level.
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15 to me is like a fine incarnation,not among the best,not among the worst hes just ok to me.
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To me all of them are equally not the same character and that is the point. Every incarnation is a unique character but still the same.
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I don’t think Ten acts particularly alien really, he’s just like a normal bloke who talks a bit fast.
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That’s fair but I more mean in the sense that I could put other incarnations next to each other and believe that is the same person with various changes in demeanour and personality whilst I truly do not see 15 aligning with any of them and struggle to connect them in my head on a fundamental character level.
However, I feel this might just be a purely personal thing.
Thinking on it, it might less be because I find 15 too human and more because I generally dislike his character.
For other more “human” incarnations, such as 10, 3 or 1, I am invested in them from the stand point of them being interesting to me purely as characters. 15 however, I am currently not into for various reasons. I think he’s one of the most superficial Doctors so far - none of his qualities seem very deep to me compared with other versions of the character - and this is mainly because of the various gripes I have with how RTD2 writes emotional beats.
So, the more I think about this the more I feel my view is mostly based of my own personal biases towards 15.
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I don’t want to be That Guy, and I’m not saying this is the case for people here who are saying it, but I always get this nagging feeling when people say Fifteen isn’t Doctor-y enough that it’s…racism and queerphobia. It sounds a lot to me like people who thought Thirteen wasn’t Doctor-y enough because she was a woman. We’ve never had a Doctor with these exact traits before! But we never had a young Doctor before Five, or a Scottish Doctor before Seven. Three was also designed to be modern, portraying a Bond-type Doctor we hadn’t had before or since. I think a lot of it is recency bias, as well. I think that a few years from now opinions on him will settle.
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I find it funny how we all think different Doctors exude human or alien qualities. I would not say One is a “human” Doctor at all. He walked so Six could run and Twelve could shred on the guitar. They are the quintessential “alien” trio.
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I do also think this might play a part but I think it should be pointed out that it’s maybe a subconscious bias not complete and “evil” racism or queerphobia.
Also a bit of a negative reaction to things that are different: certain demographics of people may never have had a friend who is as loud, brash, extravagant, etc as Fifteen is.
Saying he’s like an “instagrammer” is as bad as saying that the Third Doctor is a “Tory” imo
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I’m starting to think the whole “the Doctor’s too human” thing entirely depends on the viewer.
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3? A more human Doctor? Pretty much the whole time he was reminding everyone how he’s not human and how he doesn’t belong stuck on this planet. He doesn’t pretend otherwise, casually dropping references to time travel and alien planets or the fact that he’s so much older than any human could be. He does grow to love and appreciate Earth and the people close to him, even come to think of it as a home, but I don’t think he’s that human-like.
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Yes, of course, this is how I meant it. We all have biases!
As for the Doctor’s “humanity”, I think Fifteen is not at all hiding that he’s an alien. Sure, he might not act “weird”, but someof my favourite parts of this era so far having been in Boom, where the whole conflict is dependent on the fact that his alieness would cause half the planet to blow up, and now in Robot Revolution where he showed the x-ray of himself.
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Where - can you give examples? If I look at Boom, 73 Yards and Dot and Bubble I’m not seeing a ‘cartoony style’. For all their faults, Legend of Ruby Sunday and Empire of Death aren’t cartoony either. At a stretch you could put it at the feet of Maestro and Space Babies but even then, Doctor Who has had that sort of kitsch LONG before Disney came along.
Again, I ask, what ‘wacky juvenile output’ are you pointing at when you say it’s getting Disneyfied - either from Disney itself or from Doctor Who.
There’s two different issues going on here though. Things being frightening is one thing but RTD’s comments about Davros in a wheelchair being extrapolated the way you have is a completely different issue.
For what it’s worth I think RTD was wrong to say what he did in terms of how he phrased it. I know for a fact the production team consulted disability campaigners before Season 1 and the Davros comments sprung partly from that. The problem is there wasn’t really a wrong or right response to what he said. As many disabled people reacted adversely to his comments as did welcomed it. And the same was true of able-boded people. It’s not a cut and dry argument and certainly not something to then extrapolate into ‘well then we can’t have any monsters can we?’ because that isn’t in the same spirit as what RTD was, rather clumsily, saying. That, to my mind, is disingenuous.
Absolutely not the case at all. Dot and Bubble was very subtle because so many of us missed the unconscious bias until it was pointed out to us. I think Dot and Bubble is an extremely clever script which DOES treat its audience with intelligence.
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