TV Club: Torchwood - Ghost Machine

Will also add that this is very much something that happens in the Torchwood Novels that take place between ghost Machine and Cyberwoman too, literally just last week reading Slow Decay, there’s a moment of Tosh going into the archives and being surprised to find Ianto, talking about how he often fades into the background

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Damn, I need to read Slow Decay. I loved Another Life (set at roughly the same time). But just getting through the short stories and TSC rn

Though tbh, with later audio context, he likes being alone in the Archives. Basement gremlin.

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But surely the whole first season would have been written and filmed before any of it aired?

Maybe some of the writers or cast liked him and kept him on? Just can’t see how it could be the fans.

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It’s from interviews I think or the magazines? I forget the source.

It was definitely distinct from the reasoning of season two.

Either that, or it’s just a fan rumour I’ve picked up.

I’ll try to find where I picked it up from lol

Edit: "“David-Lloyd started the role believing Ianto would be killed off at the end of the first series, and was surprised when they “worked the character to become more popular, and it started growing from there.””

Bit ambiguous by when he “became more popular”

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Might also be mixing that quote up with the original plans for season 2 where (major S2 spoilers) the original plan was to kill him in Reset instead of Owen

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But the reasoning behind that wasn’t due to Ianto’s popularity, it was because the writers thought the plot better suited Owen as a character. Because Owen would have a more interesting character arc compared to if they gave that plotline to Ianto

The season one decision has always had a distinctly different reasoning for the season two decision…and now I’m sounding like an insane fanatic

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Oh no yeah I know, I’m saying it might be an extra tidbit in the back of your brain that’s confusing the original bit about when he ‘became popular’

the becoming popular thing was definitely season 1, but I could see assuming it got further along than it did because of how far along it got for that plot in season 2 /gen

(not saying that is what happened, 0 clue obviously, but it could theoretically be another thing that’s adding to things

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I think this episode is really good. It’s very strong emotionally and with the characters. I wouldn’t really say I like it because it is very heavy in a realistic way that always puts me off fiction if it’s too strong, but it does that very well.

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