TV Club: The Daleks

Yes, I like The Daleks. Like many people of a similar age, my first experience of it was via Whitaker’s novelisation. The hard back with a pink cover turned up in our village library, which I guess must have been one of the printings in the sixties, so it was called Doctor Who in an Exciting Adventure with the Daleks. Eventually I saw a bootleg VHS of the story some time in the late eighties, before the official VHS came out. Despite the differences between it and the book, I still loved The Daleks. I found it compelling viewing and I bought each release up to The Beginning box set. I read The Early Years at a similar time, which included a description of the recording of The Dead Planet, which gave me a greater appreciation of the way it was put together. It was just so exciting to experience the very first appearance of the Daleks!

The story is far from perfect. It’s a bit too long and all the stuff in the caves is a bit dull. The movie version is better paced, although it lacks some of the jeopardy of its TV counterpart.

The colourisation is fine. It’s obviously the product of numerous compromises, which is a shame, but I accept that they had to be made. I know that it had to be edited down to make it a manageable colouring job, but I feel that there is a clash between the tighter, more modern editing and the acting and direction of the original. The colouring itself is impressive, but one of the downsides of it being so good is that you stop appreciating it and the other limitations of the production become a bit more obvious. It’s just as the novelty of the colour wears off that the editing compromises become more obvious. The over reliance on flashbacks becomes irritating. They’re included because there was no other footage to cut away to that would cover some of the in vision edits. They also reduce the amount of colourisation needed. So they were necessary, but are somewhat irritating to watch. I’m also not convinced by the addition of more Dalek voices, giving us “Exterminate” well before its time, but I guess these were designed to help sell the edit in places. It was never going to be perfect and I think they’ve done as good a job as they could have done to fulfil the brief in the available time.

In an ideal world, I’d have liked to see the full episodes colourised with intelligent upscaling. The technology and expertise isn’t there to manage this, yet, but it might be in future. That said, I don’t suppose it would be much more popular.

I’m broadly pro colourising, especially if the originals are retained, but I don’t think that this was the ideal story to work with. I know why it was chosen, but I think one of the later stories with better picture quality might have given a more pleasing result.

Anyway, the black and white episodes are all on iPlayer, so this augmented release is a bonus, whether we like it or not, it doesn’t detract from the originals.

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You’ve hit the nail on the head where the colourisation is concerned. I really felt it was working fine up until the lift shaft and then it all went crazy! I thought it was just that this is where the manic editing started but, you’re right, this is also where my eyes had become accustomed to the colourisation and so I started noticing other aspects that maybe weren’t working as well.

The Daleks isn’t a story I’d ever rank highly but it is one I do tend to enjoy when I watch it.

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It is about the same point where I noticed issues. I think the sequence around the lift shaft has ended up a little clumsily edited. Clearly it needed to be shortened to meet the brief, but it must have been difficult to work out where to place the edits while keeping that bit of the story making sense. It may be that someone coming to it without prior knowledge of the story might not find it confusing, but to me that sequence seemed all over the place.

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Just finished The Daleks and man is it a fantastic episode. Such high concept sci-fi for 1963 and although people complain about the pacing I thought it was fine throughout. The worst part however is the cave scene in which the characters are jumping over the cliff. That was way too long and was very boring. Considering the rest of the story was gripping throughout and watching it in one sitting never bored me, (besides the cave scene) I would rate this episode very highly.
9.3/10

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Currently watching The Daleks in Colour and I have to say, while I like the color work this is absolutely the worst version of this story of the 3 (this, original, and Cushing) the removal of classic scenes was bad enough, but when they made Susan wink* I just lost all hope for this version

I really hope none of the Tales of the TARDIS edits are anywhere close to this bad

*Edit: it was really the sound effect for the wink that threw me, I was mistaken on my initial watch

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It is soo bad :joy:
That escape montage… Shudders

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That is in the original version, isn’t it?

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Pause and go frame by frame, it’s very fake

Edit: My mistake, i was seeing things

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The Ambush - 2 mins 17 seconds, Susan is clearly winking.

Daleks in Colour - 40 mins - exact same shot.

Am I missing something?

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maybe i am, but it looks very fake to me, though rewatching on a smaller screen it doesn’t look as fake, i guess it had been a bit sense i saw the original…

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looking at them side by side I think it was mostly the audio que that really threw me


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That is the part of the new version where everything went very… funky all of a sudden!

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I understand that they were trying to shorten it for modern audiences, and that that probably made significantly less work for them, but starting with a 7 part serial and shortening it that much was their first mistake

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That’s a great comparison. For all the controversy regarding the funky new music and that edited montage, it’s worth admiring just how well the visuals have been cleaned up and how goid that colourisation really is. :heart_eyes:

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I don’t know if I was more prepared for 1st Doctor pacing with this one in comparison to Dalek Invasion Of Earth, but I adored this one in comparison to my first watch of Invasion. It feels very mysterious, and even the slower parts with the Thals are quite nice. For the first true sci-fi story of the show? What a great start.

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Such an iconic serial and yet as somebody who adores long serials, I must admit I felt the length quite a lot. The Daleks are a great force in it, all well-voiced and work pretty well. The conflict is a simple one but works well enough. And there are plenty of lovely scenes with our Tardis Crew. The Fact that the doctor is so curious, he puts them all in danger makes for interesting drama that later gets explored in this story and the edge of destruction. The Moments with Susan writing a letter and giggling about the fact that the Daleks don’t know what Names are all lovely. I really like the first Half of this Story. It only starts to struggle when we come to the parts where our Team unites with the Thals, the conclusion is great, but the fact that we get a lot of unnecessary fillers in those latter parts bothers me. I will say after watching the color version it earned more respect, of course no disrespect to the colorization. That Part is actually stellar, but the cutting down was done so odd and the fact they tried to add music more akin to nuwho does not work. Tales, even if I didn’t enjoy some parts of it, works much better as both a cut down and a way to introduce new viewers to old serials. I think it’s definitely weaker compared to the first serial, but my god, how can you not have respect for such an important story in the Show’s History? And it’s fascinating that the Daleks are much different in this Story compared to later outings. (Surprised I didn’t comment on this Story here yet, thought I did already.)

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A great video about the creation of the Daleks from @JoshSnares:

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Thank you! :slight_smile:

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I have rewatched this series and it is better than I thought the first time I watched it. I even liked the cave bits this time! They really help to give more character moments to a lot of characters. Might be that I am more used to watching classic Who now.

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Antodus’s death is possibly one of the most harrowing of the series and I don’t know why it doesn’t get more recognition.

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