Oh, now you’re the one calling tropes tired on their first outing! /lh
(I do agree, though.)
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Well at least we didn’t have it in Classic Who, imagine if Adric didn’t die.
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And I just read from the TARDIS Wiki that the reason he decided on not killing off Rose (and the later companions too, I suspect) is that killing off a companion would go against Doctor Who’s “optimistic worldview”.
Oh, and she is awesome, isn’t she? Especially in Doomsday when she goes against the Cyber programming and turns on the Cybermen! She one of the better elements in a flawed two-parter.
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I like this story on the whole. It continues to deal with the body horror of cybermen, which is a plus, and introduces Yvonne, which is a huge plus. And finally, Rose is gone! I’m sure we won’t have to deal with hearing about her for the next two seasons.
Although, this episode eventually gives us Cyberwoman, which is so terrible it taints this story by affiliation.
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Ha - never said I wasn’t a horrendous hypocrite.
To be fair, though, I didn’t mind it with Rose as it was an interesting way of opening the episode. I more have an issue with Moffat using it again and again for his companions.
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When I eventually reread the Eighth Doctor DWM strips I’ll write a “every inspiration RTD took from the comics” section, but for now I just wanna casually point out he 200% got the ghost Cybermen idea from The Flood.
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GO GET HIM
I feel vindicated!
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Doomsday was great when I was like 9 and watching it for the first time and Rose leaving was sad to me. And then I discovered the rest of DW and became and adult and I find the melodrama of it all so terribly tiresome. I do think this story does cybermen pretty well but these days I just find the whole Rose thing something I don’t care about
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The truest words that have been spoken today!
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They sort of did that in Big Finish. Spoiler alert: it doesn’t go well
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9 year old me, still not over Earthshock: BUT YOU DIDNT
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I’m one of a small minority that like that story, I think.
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The first half was weird and hard to get through but goddamn was I crying at the end
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Me too, but tbf I like everything that is not Adric. I just think the intelligent scorpions are lots of fun
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A bit of disjointed thoughts in Negativity Corner this time: 
Summary
- RTD is utterly incapable of writing compelling or engaging voice-overs for cold opens! (Army of Ghosts, The End of Time, The Star Beast)
- Rose and the 10th Doctor are infuriatingly smug once more!
- The Ghostbusters “bit” is so cringe worthy
- I would rather watch when RTD was writing this story sitting with a bunch of action figures - “And then the Cybermen go all bang, bang, bang but the Daleks go zoom and Exterminate. BANG”
- How the ■■■■ did Pete know what was going on in another universe and where and when to materialise?
- Why are people going crazy for Yvonne Hartman?
- “Aren’t anyone going to ask about the glasses?” - No because they know how smug you will be when giving an answer!
- Pete Tyler is just diminishing returns every time he showed up - they should have left him as a one-off in Father’s Day.
- I can’t stand people having been converted into Cybermen but then regaining some of their humanity that others don’t (Danny Pink, Yvonne Hartman, The CyberBrig
, Craig (okay he wasn’t quite converted but still)) - Always bloody Norway
- Burning up a star to say goodbye, we can’t be together - yeah right Doctor, Rose got too clingy and you fibbed to get out of that one - UNIT scientists could send Rose across in series 4
At least have the guts to break up you coward
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Because she’s awesome.
Can’t explain why she just is.
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This is something I agree with. I dont see the appeal of her.
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Yeah she’s great, but I don’t see why she gets singled out as someone that special.
Is she in audios I haven’t heard perhaps?
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Yes, lots. As someone who haven’t heard them, I can’t see the appeal too.
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My biggest problem with this story is that Freema Agyeman is in this and then plays Martha 2 episodes later. This gets confusing.
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