The Fandom... OF DOOM!

I’m interested in discussing the propensity of many Doctor Who fans to see the glass as being half empty, or not even there in the first place! I know this is against the culture of TARDIS Guide, which I see as looking for the positive, not being blind to the things that some of us don’t like, but accepting that much of this is a matter of taste, mood and many other factors. I’d like to explore this in a supportive, understanding manner to try and work out what fuels it, and how we can challenge, accept or live with it as part of us.

What’s brought it to mind lately is the current discussion around the possibility that the show might not be recommissioned after the current season. The first I heard of this was when I was listening to a podcast around August last year. The hosts were discussing the “news” that there was no news about a season 3 yet. They went on to mention their own dissatisfaction with Empire of Death and how the lack of news might be due to an underperforming season. This kind of talk has bubbled up now and then since, and, more recently, appeared in the press. I think it’s a shame, because these things can easily become self-fulfilling prophesies, with negative press feeding into a decision not to recommission. We’ve heard that the decision to go beyond season 2 was always going to be taken after it dropped, but it’s hard to know if that’s always been the case or is a nifty bit of retconning for PR purposes. But what’s abundantly true is that we have a new season of Doctor Who that will be starting very soon and, while many of us are excited by it, the excitement is, at best tempered by those voices that tell us that it might well be the last.

However, apart from on a very few occasions, most seasons of Doctor Who were commissioned on a yearly basis, which meant that almost every season of Doctor Who might have been the last one. And yet, it has continued and continued. I remember in 2005 before the new series was launched there were fans talking to me abiout the design of the TARDIS and the logo and so on, and who were convinced that the BBC had brought it back with the express purpose of burying the show for good. With twenty years’ worth of hind sight, I think they must have lost the spade.

I used to look through discussions on rec.arts.drwho during the first two years of the resurrected show (I’ve no idea why; it was a terrible and toxic place, especially in those years). There was a regular cry of “It’s the McCoy years all over again”, which was used to hint that cancellation was just around the corner. I’m pleased that the McCoy seasons have now been reassessed as a time when the show was at a creative high, now we know that the lack of enthusiasm in the wider BBC for the show during the late eighties was really due to internal politics.

I do think that time has a lot to do with why older fans still fret about cancellation and check ratings obsessively and so on. Before 1985 and the cancellation crisis, (which was quickly converted into a longer pause between seasons and a halving of screen time, due to public pressure), there had been a long season of Doctor Who every year since 1963. It was a television fixture and there not being another season of Doctor Who had been unthinkable. Suddenly the rug was pulled from under Doctor Who fans’ feet and the show was existing under a sword of Damocles. It didn’t help that when the initial run was ended in 1989, it was done so in a rather underhand manner. The public message was that there would be a slightly longer break between this and the next series; the reality was that the show was cancelled and all independent bids to make it were rebuffed.

In every era of Doctor Who there are things that I love, things that I’m indifferent to, and things that I dislike. Occasionally I’m irritated by it and want to tell the showrunner that they’re making Doctor Who wrong! The reality is no such thing, there’s just a bit that I’ve found not to my taste at that particular time. Thanks to the little voice inside that suggests that the show has to be perfect in all respects or the meanies will cancel it again, I’m often a bit more concerned about the current era than ones of years gone by. That’s a shame, because if I go back and rewatch an episode that I thought was weak at the time, with that cancellation crisis goblin no longer gnawing away at my thoughts, it seems like a perfectly cromulent episode of the show. They didn’t make the show wrong; I was just oversensitive to the possibility of losing it. I try hard to watch each new episode as if it’s an old one now, so that the hyper sensitive part of my fan brain stops looking for scenes that are begging for it to be axed.

The truth of the current situation is that, like with most seasons before it, we don’t know if it will be the last or if there will be a pause before more are made or if the show will continue for many years to come. What I do know for sure is that we’ve got a run of eight brand new episodes ahead of us, which is a great thing, and we’ve also got an expanded universe that will almost certainly keep on keeping on.

The whole TV industry was disrupted by a streaming model that was artificially inflated by investors hoping to make a quick buck. It’s now contracting to try to make what’s left profitable. In the mean time it has given viewers expectations of production values that are probably unsustainable across the industry. Mind you, it is an industry that’s very susceptible to group think. Certain ideas are taken as gospel, like TV drama has to look as good as blockbuster movies these days, or you can’t make sci-fi without years’ of rendering computer generated effects. In the nineties it was a given that you couldn’t make science fiction without American money, and you shouldn’t even try. I don’t think that’s true, but I don’t make the rules.

I still think that there’s room for lower budget science fiction and there’s room to be a lot more experimental about how you tell stories. One of the most exciting developments of recent years for me was Doctor Who Redacted. The first series was rough and ready, but so fresh and exciting. I love it when people do things like this with the show. I’m still optimistic that we’ll get more Doctor Who in future and that some of it will be on TV, but if we don’t for a bit, it still looks like we’ve got a great series ahead of us and there will still be some kind of future for the show. I just know it.

Where do your biggest fears for the show come from? Do you worry unnecessarily? Or is the whole universe really doomed? If you think it is, please keep it light. No one like to be told “I told you so” as they roast in a supernova.

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I agree with practically everything you’ve written and will return with a few more detailed thoughts when I get a chance.

‘Fear of cancellation’ is still fandom’s biggest yoke and one it desperately needs to cast off.

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That was a brilliantly written essay. Adding to the fear of cancalation that’s been hanging over the show since 1985 is the modern trend of shows that seem popular getting cancelled after a season or two for seemingly no reason. I’ll see articles all over saying that Show X has been cancelled or the streaming service has opted not to renew it. So that modern trend definitely doesn’t help that sense in Fandom that the show could be cancelled at any moment.

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You put in words a lot of my thoughts as well. Greatly written!

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Thank you. I think that’s true. If anything, the reasons for discontinuing shows are even murkier these days, but I still remain optimistic that Doctor Who will be with us for some time yet.

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It may sound blunt, but I don’t have any fears or worries about things like this. It’s just a television show and I honestly have other things to concern myself with than fretting about it being cancelled or not. But I’m someone who doesn’t really watch TV shows (and if I do, I usually just watch season one or a few episodes and call it a day) and I don’t subscribe to any streaming services or participate in fandom (other than being on the fringe of DW), so the fate of TV shows isn’t something I tend to care about.

I think people get addicted to being unnecessarily anxious about things. Just let the show breathe. It’ll last as long as it needs to. (And I totally agree with TARDIS32’s post below, so I don’t understand the masochism in this fandom).

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Yeah, Doctor Who fans were already burned once in 1989, and there’s basically always been this fear that they’ll cancel it because they’ve done it before. Add in that streaming shows get cancelled all the time, and usually don’t run all that long, and Doctor Who fans get worried. Doctor Who is doing fine. We saw that the last season was always in the top 5 most viewed on Disney Plus, any time I’ve heard anyone in authority talk says that Disney is pleased with how Doctor Who has been doing in the platform, it’s doing well on iPlayer too. And remember this is something that’s relatively cheap for Disney to keep on there, they don’t make the show, they’re paying a fraction of the cost for Doctor Who than they do for the things they produce themselves. So, it’s cheap for them and doing well. Fans just get uneasy and start making mountains out of molehills. Also, if Disney Plus falls through, Bad Wolf are probably already setting up contingency plans for another streaming partner, so it’s not the end if Disney does decide not to continue.

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I love it! You’re right of course, but then, sometimes it’s just easier to be distracted by worries about a TV show not continuing so that we don’t take a good, hard look at the wider world!

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I find that most people who think the show will be cancelled are also people who look to right-wing reviewers, who straight up just lie about things. But it gets taken as fact.

Sure, there may be truth in it, but for the cancellation rumour I doubt it. I also doubt that Ncuti is leaving until at least his third season.

And then there are the fans who think that we need a cancellation and a reset. As if the show would get a guaranteed revival lol. Though, I do agree with the sentiment they share online: The Wilderness Years allowed for new writers and creators to gain popularity and work on the revival. And now people are saying “where are the new writers/new ideas?”, and to this someone responded that it’s not as accessible for younger writers to write for the show, like it was during The Wilderness Years. One comment I saw in one thread was someone asking, “who’s our modern-day RTD?” (In the sense of a young, popular showrunner in British television rising the ranks quickly). Overall, a bit depressing, but cancelling does seem like the incorrect route, and not something which should be hoped for either.

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This is something that I really can’t understand. I find it really hard to understand this reasoning. I don’t think that a second wilderness year would work the same way as the first one. Mainly because companies are much more protective of their IPs now. I don’t think that we will get a new set of Virgin-style books, and Big Finnish are already doing their thing.

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Yeah, I used to think it would be cool for the show to have a New Writer Revival like in the 1990s, but I know it wouldn’t be the same. It’s a lot harder for new writers to break into the scene and there’s no way a bunch of nobodies would have been able to create their own BBV or Big Finish these days, so at this point I’m doing a giant shrug.

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On a side note, I genuinely thought this was thread for the classic videogame Doom

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I’d participate in such a thing. Not NuDoom though.

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Fandom? Fandoom.

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Hahaha! I used to play Doom, back in the day (like with all videogames, I was terrible at it!). We got hold of a patch that changed the monsters into Daleks and cybermen and you shot at them with a sonic screwdriver and you got to pick up K-9 along the way. It also had some very funny sound effects if you managed to blow up a dalek.

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