I’d 100% agree with what @SweetAIBelle said about SNW and PD (I haven’t had an opportunity to see Prodigy yet).
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I’ll +1 SNW and LD,
I absolutely adore Lower Decks, it’s just such a love letter to the series as a whole, and you can tell the people who wrote it are massive Trekkies.
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“DS9 takes a couple seasons to get good.” People say this often, but I say it’s good from the first season through the seventh, something I’ve always believed. It just gets even better when the Dominion enters the story. Having rewatched the first season recently and on the second season now on a weekly watch with friends, and really it’s just generally been good. Emissary, Past Prologue, A Man Alone, Captive Pursuit, Dax, Battle Lines, Progress, Duet, the Circle trilogy (which is where we’re through at this point) are all good to great (especially those last three listed). Even the ones I didn’t mention aren’t bad, the worst being just a little mediocre rather than actually bad. And I even like Move Along Home too. The first two seasons do such a good job at establishing the characters and building the world that is Bajor after Cardassian occupation. I just don’t understand the detractors of the first two seasons, maybe they’re just seeing it through a comparative lens of S3-7 after it. It’s not just my favorite Trek, it’s my second favorite television show after Doctor Who.
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There’s a certain variety of bad that I could easily argue isn’t really bad. Is “Move Along Home” really bad if you remember the little girl and " Allamaraine, count to four," many years later?
By this point, Lower Decks has given us both “allamalay lemon meringue”, and “You’re always getting people trapped inside of games! Stop trapping people inside of games!”, in different episodes, even.
(And, yes, I could argue in favor of Threshold similarly…)
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Honestly, I think the only real issue with MAH is that the stakes weren’t really stakes. It ends on “it was just a game,” which I can see pissing people off. But otherwise it’s just a fun, silly, Star Trek episode.
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I understand why people think this, but I don’t agree. During the early seasons a lot of the characters are rough, almost unlikeable, but that’s the point, and it makes the type of people these characters grow into more special because we got to see them go through actual character growth and development.
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So we started Strange New Worlds. I think my wife is with-holding judgement for the moment. I thought it was fine but none of the characters were particularly speaking to me. But it deserves to be given time.
Are these all the same characters as in The Man Trap i.e. Number One and Nurse Chapel? And we’re between Enterprise and the Original Series, yes?
(Just checking as this is what I told my wife!)
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We’re in between Enterprise and TOS. The original pilot for TOS, The Cage, has Captain Pike in it, and a somewhat different crew, and then the second pilot was when we got Kirk and such, but Pike was established to have been the Captain before Kirk.
So it’s sort of Pike’s crew, but not at the time of The Cage, with a few different members.
Una Chin-Riley in Strange New Worlds is Number One in The Cage. Nurse Chapel is from TOS, as is Spock, and M’Benga, in fact.
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Is Uhura the same Uhura?
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Yes she is the same, just younger.
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And Number One was in The Cage (and by extension The Menagerie), not The Man Trap. I don’t think Nurse Chapel shows up until the actual aired show though. M’Benga is another returning character from TOS as well.
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Yes, sorry, forgot to mention her. This is the very beginning of her career in Starfleet…
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Pulling up my trusty Star Trek timeline:
Enterprise is 2151-2155
The Cage is 2254
Discovery S1-2 is 2256-2258
Strange New Worlds starts in 2259 and actually the first two seasons have still been that year
TOS is 2265-2269 (-2270 with TAS rounding out the 5-year mission)
For fun, I’ll go on.
TOS films 2270s-2293
TNG 2364-2370 (the films 2371, 73, 75, 79)
DS9 2369-2375
VOY 2371-2378
LD 2380-2382
PRO 2383-2385
PIC 2399-2402
DIS S3-5 3188-3191
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Ah had no idea about M’Benga - what episodes is he in?
Also, I meant The Cage - not the Man Trap! I’m not a fan of OS - I’ve only managed to get about halfway through Season 1 and have given up. Don’t really enjoy the characters.
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A Private Little War and That Which Survives.
And I won’t try to convince you to change your mind on TOS, but if you only got halfway through S1, you stopped just before it really started to get good.
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Maybe I’ll try and continue. That one with the actor who might be a mass murderer nearly did for me.
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Yeah, only those two episodes, and Strange New Worlds decided to expand on that.
Sam Kirk is technically from TOS, too, from one episode, played by William Shatner…
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Oh The Conscience of the King is great. If you went in broadcast order (production is better, especially season 1, it feels much more natural watching in the order they filmed it, but if you already started by broadcast, you might as well just continue that way) it looks like Balance of Terror is next, one of my favorites.
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Is he Kirk’s dad? That’s what we assumed watching it.
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