In the Forest of the Night
Arachnids in the UK
The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos
Legend of the Sea Devils
Orphan 55
These are now the bottom 5.
All of them have issues, sure - but ultimately I find that there is more to enjoy in each of these stories at the end of the day than there is bad stuff.
@Tian I am with you that it is a lot more fun to talk about the positives in stories that the negatives 
Orphan 55.
Iāll leave you with that to think about.
No I meant what I said 
You completely put into words how I feel - I do think David is a wonderful actor and Doctor, but the more Who I absorb, the more I realise some of the choices made about his incarnation arenāt my favourites. And I find it very frustrating that thereās a vocal faction of fans who act like he is the only Doctor who ever mattered and ever should matter
I know a lot of people that stopped watching after Smith, because 12 start was kind of meh. But the Nexflix removal was also a part of it.
My point was more about how people in todayās fandom look at 10 and 11. Feel like it has become ācoolā to hate on them and distance themselves from the popularity Boom and I feel like the overrating of 12 is part of that.
Donāt get me wrong 12 is good but I would say that his hit rate is about the same as 10 and 11.
Just wondering, what actually are the good things about Orphan 55?
Trying to remember @shaunyās first comment after watching Wickedā¦something about Baileyā¦ 
I agree with this!
The quote for reference:
I think it is a visually beautiful story and Segun Akinolaās soundtrack is used really well throughout.
I always thought the whole āBENNI!!ā thing was hilarious instead of annoying as I gather other people thought.
The whole atmosphere of that world is really well done.
But as I said, I think there are big flaws in each of the remaining five episodes, but there is always something to enjoy even if the story itself falls flat
I like the setting and although the make up job is odd, Hyph3n is played with good energy by the actress. Ryan gets some funny bits. The dregs are scary. Iāve always liked the disparate characters face danger as a group trope ala a disaster movie. I like the twist of where they are.
And do you know what. I donāt care the message is in your face. Have you seen the state our planet is in and where itās going? More people need to just blankly state the problem and if they want to do that on Doctor Who so the kids hear it and as a result tell the adults to pull their finger out and save something for them to live on then thatās fine by me.
People often donāt like being preached at when it makes them actually face up to something theyāre happy to pretend is someone elseās problem.
(Rant overā¦but seriously I just donāt peopleās problem with one little speech).
I donāt have anything verbose to add but Iāll echk the above, I never got peopleās issue with Orphan 55. Itās not the greatest ever but itās not that that dreadful
I liked this rant 
The speech is something I actually donāt have a problem with, it being some peopleās only reason for hating the episode I find ridiculous.
Now this is definitely true.
Love his music!
I would agree with all of this, but itās all executed so badly, and the best elements are underutilised.
My massive problem with this episode?
It could have been so, so good.
Hot take I guess considering how many disliked it butā¦ Space Babies is Sleep No More done right
I donāt like either but itās certainly Sleep No More done better 
I really liked Space Babie! To be honest I donāt remember Sleep No More enough to know if the rest of your take is good.
Thatās because the Eleventh Doctor is cool!
Both are episodes about the crew of a space thingy (station/ship) in a base under siege being attacked by a monster linked to something basic to our human existence.
In Sleep No More itās the āsand in your eyesā, in Space Babies itās catarrh. Both episodes have well-meaning but kinda shallow critiques on capitalism. It doesnāt help Sleep No More that only a season prior we had Listen and one later we had Oxygen.
The main difference is that one is trying to be an actual horror piece, and failling; and the other is fun camp.
He has a differentā¦ impact on me 