General Discussion for Elimination Game

Hmmm, I know of another writer who did this recently, and it wasn’t to everyone’s liking…

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i wake up to see so much of flux is gone :cry:

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It is still too much of it left!

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Swarm and Azure, circa The Vanquishers:

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Oh it killed all momentum in that story…

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I agree that the Ryan and his dad scene was wrong for the pacing of the episode, but I think the scene itself was great. It was probably the most actual emotion we got from Tosin Cole as Ryan, and I like that he got to call the guy out for being a terrible father.

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I think though the Ryan and Aaron Sinclair stuff is a bit clunkily paced within the structure of the story; it’s the only real place you can put in a series that has to be a big statement piece on the variety of the show’s capabilities. Couldn’t keep coming back to Sheffield between Arachnids and this…

I think a rather underrated thing about Resolution is that, as the title and the setting suggests, it’s really the finale of Series 11. It bookends aspects of past stories in that run in a way that The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos isn’t, and it’s a move you can only really pull when you know that there’s gonna be less than a month gap between your ‘final main episode’ and your festive special.

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I also think that “Resolution” did a fantastic job at showing just how dangerous a single Dalek can be.
And I think it did a much better job at just that than “Dalek” ever did.
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Plus the soundtrack is amazing!

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Oh I can’t agree that it did it better than Dalek

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Indeed, and especially a Dalek - without its casing.

I always wanted to do - but nobody’s ever yet let me play with the Daleks (or have they? Maybe I’m Banksy…) - a story that was very akin to Aliens in terms of ‘Doctor is inadvertently along with a bunch of soldiers going into the ruins of Skaro, but it turns out there is one mutant alive, and it will happily deal with them all bit by bit without a casing to use’. So Resolution was a very nice ‘Aha thanks, Chris, exactly what I was hoping for someone to do!’ moment.

As for comparing to Dalek, I don’t think either of them can be compared, for they are rather different beasts. One of them is about the threat level of Daleks & the relationship between Ryan and his dad at a time associated with the turning over of a new leaf… and the other is much more about the questions of morality within the Dalek and Timelord conflict & what Nine has become as a result of that.

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Oh I’d love to watch/read/listen to that :grin:

I’m thinking a Fugitive Doctor, War Doctor or 7th Doctor situation here :slightly_smiling_face:

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Oh, this was wayyyyy before Fugitive. 2015? 2014? Somewhere thereabouts, I was trying to push this. I definitely had a mind towards it being Five or Six - two because I felt it’d be nice to sideline their companions away from the story entirely, and leave them in a situation without.

There’s an odd - well, actually, no it’s not odd, it’s obvious why it happens if you think about Eric Saward for five seconds - thing in Six’s run in particular that he operates better when with the guest characters. And I kinda wanted to play with the idea that Five and Six can be quite a different person when anyone he considers a friend isn’t around & there are Daleks involved. And with Six, of course, it can fit that grim and violent period of his life just fine… but with some sort of awareness now creeping in for him that ‘oh, actually, why does my life just keep being this sort of thing right now?’

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Truly amazed that The Tsuranga Conundrum and Fugitive of the Judoon have survived longer than Rosa.

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Tsuranga yes I’m surprised, Fugitive no I’m not. Fugitive is solid. I may like Tsuranga more than most, but it’s far from popular.

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Fair enough. To me, it’s one of the few utter misfires of that whole production era. A story where the companions have such obvious opportunity to ‘stretch their legs’, and they unfortunately get lumbered with, in-turn, being shunted off into a B-plot with Captain Jack for a pretty unnecessary plot tease, some poor acting from John Barrowman, a lot of milling around… and, I guess, the social media excitement of ‘surprise, look who is here’?

The opportunity to really dig in at a space police force chasing after a woman of colour who is a fugitive from another land also feels completely lost. Jo and Jodie in the TARDIS is the only truly solid scene of it for me, writing wise, though I’ll commend Ritu Arya, Jodie & Jo for managing to make another scene at least gripping.

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To me Fugitive is a story entirely built around a twist, and once you know that twist there’s not much else to the episode besides a Captain Jack cameo that isn’t relevant to the story that’s being told. There’s no real meat to dig into on repeat viewings once you can see that everything in the plot exists to service the reveal, and it doesn’t even really do that well in my opinion. Jo Martin’s performance and a few good looking shots redeem the episode a little, but overall I would not consider myself a fan of Fugitive of the Judoon.

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Indeed. Like I say, some real wasted opportunities. In a time for the show where are three companions, it would be so possible here to have one stuck outside the barrier the Judoon put up, one stuck inside with the townsfolk trying to keep them outta trouble with said Judoon & one trying to help the Doctor deal with the Fugitive of it all. Bonus points if you don’t make it the obvious permutation of Ryan, Graham & Yaz respectively - and instead put the three of them in positions that aren’t within their usual wheelhouse. Yaz on the outside, Ryan helping the townsfolk, Graham trying to deal with the pressured situation of helping with the Fugitive situ.

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I like all the ones that are left, btw. Power of the Doctor actually has plenty of stuff I like, like bringing back old companions and Doctors, and the Ra-Ra-Rasputin scene.

It’s also got a pretty incoherent plot…

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Oh by any critical analysis, Power isn’t a good episode. But it’s a lot of fun, and has plenty of good moments.

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I do love some elements of Power but… there’s also so much I dislike :sob: It’s a shame because the elements I love I LOVE like the Doctor getting overwhelmed with so many things happening at once, it just works so well for a regeneration episode where there’s so many moving parts.

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