Everything Changes - A Torchwood Thread

On a rewatch, there’s a lot of ideas in there I like, but I find the execution doesn’t work for me

Part of what I like about Torchwood is just how british it is, but Miracle Day loses me a lot on that. It’s co-produced by an american network and you can really tell. Like it’s gruesome and gritty, but it doesn’t have that same sort of raw grime that the first three seasons do.

I’m aware it sounds weird to say given the contents of Miracle Day, but a lot of it almost feels too sanitized. Not all of it mind, Oswald Danes is an absolute highlight for me, but The main team… eh.

Mostly I just hate Rex, and that’s only half a joke

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I can agree that it feels more American. But there are more okay characters in s04 than in s01-02. There is more or less no one in the main crew that I like. That is my problem with the show.

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i liked the tv era but when it moved to big finish thats when i fell in love with torchwood, series 5-7 are phenomenal and the team i resonate much more with as opposed to any of the tv iterations. the range of stories they’ve done across all the different torchwood ranges has been great.

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Esther and Rex are sooooo annoying, I’d rather love to hate a character like Owen or Gwen than have characters that just make me cringe.

Jilly was a lot of fun though, love her. Vera was good while she lasted.

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I like Esther but yea Rex is really boring. Love Jilly too wish BF could use her

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I thought that Rex was okay. But every episode without Owen is a win for me.

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I really like Miracle Day, and I liked it even more with each rewatch. I think it has some great ideas and it’s a lot of fun. The pacing is a little weird towards the end, but it’s whatever. I don’t like Rex, but I’m aware the issues with him are a result of racist writing more than anything. He has potential.

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Listening to ‘Tropical Beach Sounds’ today which is good but has one of my biggest gripes with Torchwood in it.

It’s constantly saying the Jack is some amazingly handsome Adonis.

John Barrowman is a reasonably good looking man (personality notwithstanding) but Jack is written as the most gorgeous man on earth. Characters comment on it all the time and Jack is always charming his way out of situations.

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You know the alien pheromones that Owen steals from Torchwood and uses in S1E1?

I reckon Jack has a huge stash of that and just bathes in it all the time.

It’s the only explanation.

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He doesn’t need those, he has 51st century pheromones and smells like that naturally.

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‘who is the best looking actor in the Whoniverse?’ Is a thread for another day….

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No contest.

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For reference, @uss-genderprise isn’t joking, that’s the canonical explanation

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On the downside, The Sin Eaters reveals that because he’s immortal, Ianto starts to question Jack’s oral health. Seen as he lived during times where toothpaste didn’t exist. And is disgusted by the revelation.

So while he may look attractive to some and have pheromones, his oral health is otherwise atrocious if not for his immortality

Also there’s a scene in one of the magazines where Jack asks if he can keep a toothbrush in the SUV because of how bad of a problem it is.

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He’s probably a carrier for a bunch of diseases too.

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Sometimes I forget that not everyone memorised all the dialogue in every Torchwood episode.

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Fun thing, he used to be just completely riddled with bullets an such from times he’s been shot and healed around it

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…then he got put in an MRI machine and all the metal gets ripped out of him

Shame the story it happens in sucks

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I’ve just started the series, and I’m really enjoying it.

Extremely different to SJA, which I’m also currently watching.

I’m very sad that I’m already aware of the plot twists and deaths…

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Forbidden Planet are selling the first three volumes of Titan’s Torchwood comic.

Is that the complete run? And when in my Torchwood watch should I read them?

They’re also selling something called Rift War.

Anyone know anything about that?

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That’s the complete run, yeah, they take place after The Exodus Code novel which is after Miracle Day. The Exodus Code, isn’t required, but probably helps give more context, I didn’t read The Exodus Code and was a little lost with new characters.

Rift War was a comic published in Torchwood Magazine that takes place in the middle of Season 2, somewhere between Meat and Reset. It then later got a collected volume with all parts together, as well as The Selkie (which imo is the best TW Comic, though it’s not exactly a high bar, I’d still only give it a 6/10)

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