Episode Discussion: The Reality War

Oh yes I completely forgot about that!

Makes sense actually as otherwise Belinda would have recognised Poppy at the Barbershop

All just seems a bit messy and rushed for me

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I still stand by that I’d have been infinitely happier if they’d just expanded that to an hour. I loved Jodi in this episode.

She was great in Unleashed, too.

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I have a lot of thoughts about this one. I need to rewatch to solidify them.

I enjoyed lots of it.

But ultimately every plot thread that I cared about went nowhere.

And I am devastated Ncuti left. I was praying the whole time that the leaks were wrong. When he said ā€œI really liked this faceā€ I knew it was coming.

When 13 turned up I thought ha!! Maybe there is a way out! It was all a fake out!

But no.

The first black and openly queer Doctor left early without even seeing a Dalek or a Cyberman. I’m so gutted.

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Both Jodie and him got regenerated into more popular characters…It feels uncomfortable

It doesn’t make RTD’s diversity feel genuine.

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She really, really was. Injected so much energy into it that I realised it had been a fairly staid, toe-the-line show. Jodie comes in and is a big old goofball and even Steffan seemed to come a bit more alive than he’s seemed.

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I do note that Ncuti’s said:

It demands a lot of you

It’s hard on the knees

But also, my body is tired. You’ve tired me! You’ve tired me and I’m old now and I’m ready to settle down.

Leaving coming from his side wouldn’t surprise me.

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Does anyone know why Ncuti had to leave really? I actually loved 15 so much , I didn’t want him to go at all…He deserved one more season :pensive_face: I was so sure he would stay

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Honestly, it’s a case where Unleashed is worth watching just for that segment, if nothing else.

And you get to hear her call the TARDIS interior beautiful there, unlike in the episode.

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How do I rate an episode 0/10?)

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Just watched her segment (not watching the rest; Unleashed isn’t for me) and wow she’s so charming :sob: I’m more excited than ever for 13DAs now

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Pretty deflated after watching last nights episode. It really felt like RTD couldn’t be bothered to construct a coherent plot which I’m surprised about considering the quality of the series to date.

What has really affected me is the loss of Ncuti after such a short time. He was an excellent Doctor and a superb actor and has left far too soon. It did look like the ending was reworked to include the regeneration especially with the omission of the ā€œdisco ā€œ seen that was issued as a promotional photo by the BBC/Disney. Maybe that was the original ending.

No doubt we’ll hear more about his leaving as time passes but in the meantime I’ll celebrate the short time we did have the 15th Doctor

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big breath in

big breath out

Okay.

Now that I’ve given this episode a few hours to marinate in my head, I think I’ve come to a more lucid opinion on it.

I cannot say that it is good and maintain any semblance of good judgment. I’m still on first viewing for all of RTD2, but at the moment, it sits right at the bottom of that list and I’m not expecting it to shift. So much got mishandled here, in ways that aren’t even surprising anymore because we’ve seen RTD make these same mistakes already within RTD2, let alone his previous tenure.

But man… that was fun. Like, as a big event moment for the show, it’s such a mess that it’s kind of amazing to watch for the trainwreck. For every ten things that I could pick to absolute pieces, there’s a moment that I actually appreciated, like the Lungbarrow reference or Jodie’s appearance or Fifteenth’s regeneration as part of his character arc (regeneration circumstances are always hubristic, and that certainly counted). Hell, in terms of regeneration stories, I’ll take this over The End Of Time any bloody day; at least Nctui went out as the Doctor, not whatever the hell Tennant devolved into in that two-parter.

(Quick aside: Is there a specific thread on here just for rants? Because I do have one pretty major one I think I need to get off my chest at the moment, especially after this…)

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Just wanted to say @Mahan I read your review and you articulated everything about Omega, the real one, and why this one wasn’t him and why it was so bad really really well

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I hate nostalgia bait so much :smiling_face_with_tear: I hope there will be an explanation why the Doctor has Rose’s face now , but there is something I’m afraid of. Original Rose is already happy with Metacrisis Doctor and they have daughter together , I’m scared RTD will somehow ruin that

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I’m having a bit of a moment over here for… other reasons, so I really do appreciate you saying this.

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reality war review after gethering my thoughts and became more steady with my opinion on it and the season as a whole

i wish we had more time , the 13 episodes format was perfect to unravel everything without making the show too long that it drags or too short that the pacing starts feeling off and the finales feel way too messy , this season had so much potential from having a companion that disliked the doctor with the way he treats his companions and wanting to just get home

it was a fun dynamic between belinda being afraid that she might never see her family again but slowly starting to enjoy traveling with the doctor and the doctor who just needs someone to travel with but knows that he cant force her to be with him but after episode three this whole plot / trope got forgotten for no reason so it made the ending for belinda less climactic to me
making her a mother definitely did not help at all , i liked the idea of the timeline / dimension being rewritten tho but not on belinda’s expense of making her the mother of poppy

it definitely couldve been more emotionally powerful if they left it at ruby being the only one remembering poppy and the doctor not trying to bring her back even if that meant destroying the whole universe

i loved jodie’s scene with 15 , i need more of them together and it made me want to rewtach 13th’s era to see if i missed anything while watching it week to week , it mightve been the only thing that i liked coming from the saving poppy part of the finale

the finale had way too many characters, between fighting the rani and omega to correcting the timeline to get rid of the wish world to it being set in UNIT (enough with UNIT already) , too crowded for a 66 min episode

i haven’t seen anything with the rani and omega before watching this finale so i didn’t get upset by them getting defeated so fast but i get why classic fans are mad

the doctor being infertile is just dumb , i dont get why they did this ?? the explanation for it is also dumb , people are saying that the master did it but i dont remember him being mentioned, is it when the master destroyed gallifrey cuz he found out about the timeless child ??

the regeneration to billie was insane , i dont hate it but it so easy to mess it up and i hope they make it related to bad wolf somehow

i think it’s time for a new show runner with fresh takes on the show , and not one who worked on the show before but someone who never even touched doctor who’s set

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Jenny T. Colgan already ruined that in my opinion. That short story wasn’t good… :wink:

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Big hugs to you friend, hope things get better soon

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I’ll be alright in a bit. Just need to take my own advice for once and not let other people’s opinions get between me and what I like.

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I was referring to Empire of the Wolf story , I think the one you mentioned is from Target storybook? I saw it from wiki but haven’t read it

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