Episode Discussion: The Reality War

She was one of the parts of this episode I enjoyed!

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So looking at these side-by-side and I’m trying to determine whether it’s the difference in camera quality or whether 13 is not wearing any makeup here in RW (which is such a cool detail). But I also can’t really tell if she’s wearing makeup during her run either. I don’t wear it myself, but it’s acc nice if this is the case and I’m not just hallucinating

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Also, minor tangent here, but I’m really happy my theory as to who the big bad of the season was came (half) true

With the Toymaker being a 60s villain and Sutekh being a 70s villain I was certain s2’s villain would be one from the 80s. And I was right!

…although I was certain it’d be Fenric or the Black Guardian, not the Rani and Omega (who is technically an 80s villain). Maybe next season, eh

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Honestly, yeah, Millie’s been great. No matter what I think about the companion, she plays her well, and is good as the lead without the Doctor, too.

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Nah they never said they’d all be bigenerations, just that it was happening because of their sterility. So perhaps just an increased chance of it.

It also pretty much blasts out the water the idea of bigenerations being a loop where eventually the older one will become the newer one down the line at the end of their life. If the purpose of a bigeneration is to procreate, then a loop wouldn’t make that happen.

It does however suggest that 14 and Mrs. Flood can regenerate, because how else would bigenerating help create new time lords?

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She’s definitely wearing less makeup than during her run but I don’t think its none

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That’s so cool though. I just wish it was more normalized.

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But is that really what this show should be doing? Doing stunt casting and nostalgia bait so the show can SEEM like it’s still popular and thriving?

I get where you’re coming from that somebody is better than nobody… really this was kind of a lose-lose situation considering there’s no official stance on whether the show is continuing or not.

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I mean, like it or not, it’s gonna get attention. And as I’ve said, if they were to get anyone, Piper is a great pick because of her ties to the show and Bad Wolf (of course, then we get into the discussion about whether a new creative team is neccesary or not, which frankly I’m too exhausted to get into rn).

It’s a little bit nostalgia baity, yes. But I have faith that it’ll pan out well. We know the show’s continuing with or without Disney, and I’m more excited about seeing what Piper’s take on the character will be like than I am concerned about the show’s future.

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Aye I respect the optimism man. Like I said I totally get where you’re coming from with all that.

I think I’m just personally frustrated that this show can be doing so much more. Something more interesting. Something actually fresh and yet just does all this artificial hype.

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Ey, with the world we live in you gotta be optimistic when you can lol. I get where you’re coming from. RTD1 was my favourite era so I guess I’m just happy to be getting more of what I loved, but I can see why that’s not the case for a lot of people haha

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I agree with this. I’m trying to keep an open mind, because me being angry won’t change the casting, and it could be great, but I wish it was doing something new. I was really looking forward to what they would do with the next incarnation of the doctor, because there are are so many opportunities, but I am so disappointed that they went with this

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I also will admit that I’m furious that I just saw my favorite Doctor in recent years go out in a (personally) really bad and dirty way.

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It’s a Reality War and this was just one battle, so much of that didn’t happen, or at least not quite the way we think it did. Maybe?

Whatever comes next, now that the episode has had time to settle in my fevered brain, I would say that, for me, many of the highs and lows others have mentioned are valid, although the lows are likely not quite as low. I absolutely adored the highs, but I suppose first impressions are that it was on par with most other NuWho finales - better than a couple, perhaps, worse than a few…not sure what I’d score it (maybe 7.5 or 8/10), but I can certainly see why others might either love it or loathe it.

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I did think at one point that we were now in the Doctor’s wish, rather then Conrad’s…

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I remember my stomach sinking in the cinema when he mentioned loving this face… I was so convinced s3 would be 15, Ruby, and Belinda looking for Poppy. But then again, there is something so very Doctory about him sacrificing his own life to alter reality just so one life - one random life that hadn’t even existed prior to May 24th - could keep going. That’s how I see it anyway :woman_shrugging:

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Precisely, and then our screens broke and we ended up…there, wherever that was.

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When they were emphasising that poppy was real or whatever, I kept thinking of Donna in silence of the library/forest of the dead. Her kids weren’t real then either, and that had a very different outcome…
(I know the specifics and context are different, but I was still reminded of it)

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Oh yeah nah on paper, 15 sacrificing his life like that makes sense. It’s great even.

In execution tho… mmmmmmm. Me personally, wack as hell.

But aye still love Who, never gonna stop loving it even if I’m really tempted not to bother watching the rest of… whatever it is RTD is ā€œplanningā€

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Okay, a thought just occurred: wouldn’t it be a trip if RTD was pulling a reverse Six and, instead of Baker having to act like he was still The Doctor until the news could officially break, Ncuti is not, in fact, leaving, but has to pretend like he is due to the show going on hiatus for a year or two, but in-universe the Reality War is still ongoing, the Daleks catch wind of it, and Ncuti has to return to fight them, possibly at the end of a third season?

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