Dark Gallifrey - Morbius Discussion

Yeah, and then I don’t have to wait the month between each installment.

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Incredible, as usual. Also, bizarrely, finally an in-universe use of the name “The Collective”

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Started Part 1 this evening, now that the whole thing is out. I’m enjoying it, but not quite sure what to make of it. It’s definitely different from your normal Whoniverse fare. I liked the whole Lord of the Rings (film) style intro explaining the whole civil war. It’s different, but that’s not a bad thing. Looking forward to where this is going.

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I listened to the first 2 parts again yesterday. Diving into the final episode later today when I go out on my walk. With the cliffhanger to ep2 this could go either way for me. Fingers crossed.

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Is there a kind person who can give me a general idea (or a brief summary) of what happened in Morbius Part 1? I tried this story for like, 2 or 3 times and every time I get lost midway :smiling_face_with_tear:
Maybe it’s just one of those stories not kind on non-native speakers? Idk… I really want to enjoy this series.

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In the middle of Part 3 now and I’m loving this. It’s so different from anything else Doctor Who has done. A sailing ship traveling through Vortex, the innocent Sister of Karn, the island of ice hidden in the Vortex. By the time we reach Part 3, Morbius is wonderfully threatening.

@AlfieSigma I’m not really sure how to summerize this because it’s essentially all one long story. It’s not really something that’s easy to break up. But, I’ll try.

Summary

Essentially, we’ve got the last Gallifreyan ship preparing to leave Karn with a hold of POWs from Morbius’ army. The captain has been killed in battle but recieved a comendation from the Time Lords that sort of returns her ability to regenerate to her. Gilda, a young apprentice apocathary, joins the crew with a limited supply of elixer for the captain’s illness. They cast off, but a series of misfortunes asail them. Their route home has been changed, the dimensional controls are failing, Morbius’ mind is hidden in one of the prisoners. As they voyage, they find a shimmering man adrift in the Vortex who seems to know the captain and speaks of an island of the dead. Part 1 ends with the ship running aground on the island, which seems made of snow and ice, hidden in the Vortex.

Hope that helps. It might be something to binge all three parts on a long car ride or something.

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This does sound vastly different from what I’ve listened to so far. Thanks so much for the summary! :smiling_face_with_three_hearts: I think now I get the picture… Maybe I’ll get lucky on my train ride home next weekend. (It’s like, over 30 hrs so plenty of time to listen and relisten)

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No problem. The ship, the Proteus, is a time ship, but it’s also seems very much akin to an 18th Century sailing ship (think Golden Age of Piracy, Spanish Armada, that sort of thing). So that might be some of where you’re getting hung up. Your mind says TARDIS, but the soundscape doesn’t match.

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In short, fantastic. The best thing I’ve heard from Big Finish in ages. I’d highly recommend this set if you’ve been thinking about getting it.

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There we go finished Part 3. That was really good, Samuel West as the revived Morbius was outstanding and brilliantly threatening. The little hints that we got about a physical Dark Gallifrey make me eagerly anticipate the next miniseries with the War Master (and others). I didn’t hear any of the age in Tom Baker’s voice this time round which was wonderful. As I’ve said before (in various places) this was unlike anything else Big Finish has done, at least recently, and it was a nice breath of fresh air after what has been sounding somewhat samey lately. Great stuff, but definitely a binge-oriented story and not a drawn out month-by-month type of story.

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I highly agree with everything here. In particular, I ADORED Foley’s version of 4 here. All the alienness and the bizarreness of his Doctor but he has these moments where he cries for the monsters presented to him. He has an understanding of the tragedy he is presented with and knows there isn’t anything he can actually do.

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Finally got around to part 3. While I still liked it, it was probably the weakest of the run (4.5/5 instead of 5/5)

These are not big issues, but they’re annoying, so I am going to spend a lot of time on them

Weirdly, I think the weakest parts were the bits with the Doctor. Obviously, Tom Baker’s performance was great, but it felt like whenever he’s around, the story’s priorities changed. The writer stops caring about telling the story he’s been telling for the past 2 hours, and is just writing fun lines for the human man Tom Baker to say. There’s this weird thing that expanded universe writers will do whenever they’re making more than a passing reference to a tv story, where they’ll have the doctor stop and reminisce and give a full summary of the story, regardless of plot relevence. The other characters don’t care. Most of the audience of a Big Finish story featuring the 4th Doctor and Morbius have already seen The Brain of Morbius and know all this, and the rest don’t care. It feels like the only reason it’s there is because fans get a nostalgia hit hearing Tom Baker say Solon

This kind of thing does have an impact on the story itself. I’m still not totally clear on why the Horn of Rassilon summons the Doctor, rather than Rassilon, but hey, we get that awkward conversation where two people who’ve never met the doctor before have to try and naturalistically prompt him to explain where he is in relation to his TV timeline

Again, these are minor issues, and most of the story is great, I just can’t shake the feeling that Tim Foley got distracted by the doctor once he showed up, and the story suffers slightly for it

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My thoughts were that the Horn of Rassilon was seeking a president that could defeat Morbius. It searched the Matrix & found one that had defeated him before, in the future. I liked how it was a Matrix projecrion of the 4th Doctor.

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I think this trilogy suffered massively from being overhyped. Tim Foley has been rising through the ranks of late, so anything with his name attatched is going to sell incredibly well. Overall though, it just felt very standard.

My reviews of ‘Dark Gallifrey - Morbius’ are now available to read.


#1.01. Morbius: Part One


#1.02. Morbius: Part Two


#1.03. Morbius: Part Three


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