Sounds like an awesome trip!!!
Some people appreciated it, at least lol
As I mentioned, I relistened to this story yesterday and today. It’s still such a favourite. I know it’s unlikely there were any survivors after the ash began to fall, but I really hope that at least in the world of Doctor Who, Valeria, Celsinus and Aglae survived. Aglae especially pulled at my heartstrings — she’s so earnest, a really sweet mirror to Mel.
I’ve also remembered that this one of my first Big Finish stories, years ago — and maybe my first encounter with Mel, ever? It’s certainly one that’s stuck with me. I’d probably consider it a comfort audio.
Also — lovely facts, @shauny !
Honestly I feel like everything about this lovely story already has been said
Mel and 7 are a really good team - light-hearted Mel and this incarnation before he goes too hard on the cosmic chess master vs evil from the Dawn of Time.
I’ll just say that I find this to be the best Pompeii-based story of two mentioned in this Club thread, though definitely not the best volcano-based story we’ve had
That’s right because the best one is The Underwater Menace!
Another fact which I just remembered because my husband said it at dinner
Yes they used to eat lying down! And after stuffing their faces with a big meal, it was considered rude and you wouldn’t be invited back if you didn’t immediately vomit up all the food, to make room for even more!!
So bizarre!
I believe the room was called a vomitarium (or something like that).
You should watch I, Claudius - the ancient Romans were bonkers!
Ooh, I have a bit of knowledge on this! The Romans absolutely had rooms called vomitoriums (vomitoria?) but they weren’t for throwing up — they were large corridors used as exits from theatres and amphitheatres. The Doctor probably used one to escape the gladiators in part 4 of this very story! Meanwhile, the Latin word vomitorium is derived from is where we get the word ‘vomit’ from in English — vomo. (I briefly fell in love with Latin terminology a few years ago and this is one of the few facts I remember!)
And I absolutely need to watch I, Claudius. It’s on the list, I promise…
While I fully admit that this is an excellent story, it’s not a favorite of mine. It starts out rather slow, and the Doctor feels uncharacteristicly pessimistic and defeatist. That said, the second half picks up the pace a bit, the world-building is excellent, the guest cast is great and Mel is served brilliantly. I also love the cheat they use to resolve the primary challenge.
It’s called the fires of Vulcan because it’s straight FIRE Absolutely packing heat youknowwhatamean? Dis one’s hot! None of that lukewarm Apocalypse Element bullshit from last time. They were cooking with this one!
Too many unfunny heat puns? Alright, I won’t bring you to a boil with more.
I saw Fires of Pompeii not too long ago and thought it was very good, but I think this one might be even better.
In Fires Of Pompeii we see the tragedy happening from a very different point of view. There the Doctor and his companion see it from a kind of higher perspective. They dabble with these mofos who can see the future, fight lava monsters, say hi to a cult, become buddies with Peter Capaldi and they meet with aliens and do all that stuff. They see the tragedy from the perspective of the gods so to say. They literally make the eruption happen to hammer home that point even more.
In Fires Of Vulcan, the Doctor and his companion see the tragedy from the point of the people. They get to meet and connect to people living there. Get to understand how life was before the eruption. There is no end of the world problem with beings from another universe or whatever. The Doctor’s problem is a gladiator with a tragic backstory who wants to kill him. He’s saved by Valeria, who he then gets to connect with. Mel gets to know and become friends with slaves, she gets to know them as people. So when the tragedy comes, it hits way harder because we actually understand how it impacts the individuals.
In the TV story, Donna and Ten look at the tragedy happening from above, on top of a cliff. All the death and destruction lumps together as one big abstract event. The characters basically have to tell us that there are people dying there.
Here, we experience that ‘abstract tragedy’ from down where it is actually happening. It’s not “the eruption is destroying everything” It’s “the eruption is destroying all these people’s lives”. We hear screams and panic all around. We don’t see lava engulfing everything, but we hear all what from above would look like the little things have enormous impact.
Fires of Pompeii works better within the context of its own series of course (Tens whole thing of being a god) and there are some things it does better than this one but…
Linguistic volcano correctness be damned. I like this one more.
And apparently i gave fires of Pompeii 4,5 stars after watching and fires of vulcan 4 stars after listening, because of course i did. Well after writing this i gotta change it to 5 stars or else it’s gonna be embarrassing.
Yeah I’m sorry it’s not a comparison competition between Pompeii stories of course. My mind just went that way because I saw it recently and then I couldn’t stop writing.
Things I like about this without bringing up a certain TV story from the fourth series of the revival of a certain TV series. Idk what this means man. It’s September of the year 2000. Never heard of “NuWho”.
I like Mel here she reminds me of Donna in the sense thatnever mind actually who is Donna
All the side characters are really lovely. The time paradox talk is fun. The introduction is very intriguing. Seven being super emo is kinda funny. Great performances, great sound design, just a classic. 10/10 (not really but after that comparison i gotta give it a higher score than… what?)
I am still surprised how much I enjoyed this Story. I think the first 50 releases (at least the ones I listen to so far) are a totally mixed bags, with some excellent ones and some more meh ones. This one on the other hand is wonderful.
Not every joke works, but it’s nice to see the S24 Tardis Team in a more dramatic Story rather than the campy ones, we got in S24.
While I prefer Mel and Six as a team, I think this one is a pretty good Outing for Mel and Seven, maybe not a favorite but pretty good!
A solid 3.5/5 (7/10). It’s an enjoyable little romp.
I actually uploaded my review of ‘The Fires of Vulcan’ a couple of days ago.
I love that it kick-started the reinvention and redemption of one of my favourite companions, but I remember part three dragging on a bit.
McCoy’s performance was excellent though - so was Langford’s!
Another good solid story rounding off the first dozen. I am really enjoying this range so far.
Mel is such a better portrayed character here that she was on TV, but I found it hard to place this story in Season 24, although of course there wasn’t really anywhere else it could go!
It had some of the best cliffhangers so far (as in “I really don’t know how they’ll get out of that!”) but the overall ending did seem a bit of a cop-out at first - then I realised that it can actually be seen as a stage in the development of the more Machiavellian 7 from seasons 25 and 26 - i.e. he’s just realised he can do this kind of stuff and he decides to really run with it!
I had been expecting a twist such as a future incarnation or another timelord turning up at the last minute & giving them a lift back to the 20th Century to be re-united with the TARDIS there. I was even wondering if one of the other characters would actually be revealed as a timelord with their own TARDIS!
But it’s none the worse for being a pure historical - the supporting characters are mostly likeable and you are rooting for their three friends to somehow survive, although they left at such a late stage that the possibility really stretches credulity.
It bugs me that locals use the word “volcano” in this story yet The Fires of Pompeii states that people coined the word after the eruption of Mt. Vesuvius. So I did a quick search, which didn’t clear things up…
So, the ancient Greeks used the word etna for volcano. And Online Etymology Dictionary states that volcano was used for Mt. Etna by the Romans.
And, there’s this post (By any other name: the story of the word ‘volcano’ | VolcanoCafe) that dated the earliest use of the word “volcano” in Latin in 13th century.
I’m so confused.
Really fun little story.
Maybe because of her use in the modern series but was happy to hear Mel. (Ace will always be better though)
Seven hasn’t had a single bad BF story so far (discounting the sirens of time)
some things have not aged well hearing things like “they’re a member of isis”
3.5/5 for me.
This is one of the best BF stories I’ve listened to so far, I loved every part of it. Before I listened to it, I was alright with the Fires of Pompeii, but I think that it’s terrible in comparison! I’m a sucker for pure historicals, and I’m glad that the MR has had a few so far. I’m looking forward to my next audio.
I’m having a great time with Big Finish so far, I really had no idea that I’d enjoy these stories as much as I do.
We’ve caught another one lads! Welcome to the black hole of BF, you can never leave…
Is Big Finish the Whovian equivalent of the Hotel California? “You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.”