It’s time to listen to and discuss Gallifrey - Warfare.
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This is a good series! But I most say Leela is the star, not Narvin!
3.02
This feelt like an epic conclusion to the story. But there are some episodes left. Is it not over? I really liked this episode. I really feel that the series got rolling at the end of the last box and now I am on edge for every story!
This is my notes from when I first listened to it a couple of weeks ago.
Leela is the bestest and I love her forever and ever and ever <3 This episode is great but (spoilers for the rest for s3) I find s3 to be all downhill from here. Appropriation is one of my all time least favourites and the character stuff in Panacea drives me mental because I think it’s completely regressive. But Mindbomb is another highlight to come and I like this episode a lot too.
It was an interesting development that Pandora was hearing voices too. I was surprised that the Gallifreyan civil war arc was resolved(?) already with more stories to go in the serries. It makes me wonder what the rest of Series 3 has in store. I’m becoming more of a fan of Leela, and also Narvin, but Romana is still my favorite.
I was also surprised that the civil war arc was wrapped up so quickly, but I guess the rest of the series deals with the aftermath. Romana and Leela shine in the story and this episode throws in it all to provide a satisfying, epic, action-packed, tense clulmination to the war. That last act in particular is an emotional rollercoaster, and the way it ends with Romana collapsing in front of Leela truly shows the pressure she’s been under.
I agree that Leela is the big star here in how loyal and capable she remains. Narvin also has several moments, and K9 playing on two sides at once is a great addition.
Oh, and really loathe Matthias in this one! Mary Tamm is great as Pandora, this is one of her strongest performances.
How does this series just keep having such amazing episodes? I’ve literally just finished it and this is another one that goes to my favourites. Leela is amazing and it is so interesting and heartbreaking how at home she seems in war. Romana here is at her most psychologically messed up which I adore and they are just amazing together. They are so codependent, I love it. And Narvin! Some great character moments here. I just about died when he called Romana his president. Twice! I just plain love it.
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Oh that’s some really nice music
What’s going on with Romana?
When a time lord says I am fine, it means they are not that’s so true
Oh Romana please stop denying your friends
I can still help you oh Leela
I love this conversation
And Leela belonging more in war is heartbreaking
And hear me out how pleading she sounds
Oh I like Narvin here
And caring for gallifrey above all else
I like that he’s still kind of scheming
He’s got interesting plans
And while he wouldn’t back Pandora or Darkel he still isn’t 100% loyal to Romana but to to the planet
Romana won’t ever put that burden down she’s way to messed up for that
I know how she thinks love how she says that
And it’s so true
Oh interesting
Oh K9 is good
Then you will see it today I love her
I like that this makes the time lords actually appreciate Leela
And that she’s so much smarter than anyone else at this
Still love Leela fighting
I love that Narvin cares to get Leela out of it
I have nothing left here but the fight : pleading_face:
What are they doing
Oh shit
I ■■■■■■■ hate Darkel
Don’t ■■■■■■■ trust her
Narvin don’t
I love how much gallifrey defines him
I think Darkel’s mistake is that she’s loyal to the old gallifrey and not Gallifrey period
I loved that verbal sparring match
Is he going to be blown up again
Oh not this time
Just a little cut up
I love how Romana and Pandora are the same
Narvin is so compelling with his morals
Leela is so happy when she can help
And Leela loves tormenting Narvin
Oh shit he’s a traitor
That’s not good
Romana is so sarcastic sometimes I love it
And I bet she is winning at avoiding medical treatment
I still hate that doctor
Now what is Matthias up to
That’s bad
Well at least it isn’t Romana who’s infected?
This is bad
I love that Romana cares so much
So glad you find it scientifically interesting I love that
Why does this series keep breaking my heart
I love Leela getting him to take that chance
Oh no
And see just what the hell he’s up to I adore her
That my tongue can be sharp enough yessss
I love Romana
Oh
This is cool
I love Romana identity crisis
Oh Romana i
I love this
I love Romana asking for Leela’s opinion
And I love Leela standing with her
I wonder what is K9’s game
Ha Romana is trying to get herself killed again
I love how she always keeps these plans to herself to the last minute and then no one can stop her
But at least she’s taking Leela with her so this isn’t that reckless
You are my president excuse me the softness in his voice? The devotion? The submission?
Oh this is good
A really smart plan
I love how soft she is to her past self
Yes Leela get your revenge
Very cathartic
Oh what now
So this is actually a full suicide plan
You are coming back with me etc I love you Leela
What is that
Oh that’s messed up
No Romana don’t give up
And let my save my president I love Narvin
Romana’s so sad
And so is K9
Her not wanting to die alone
And making her last words be to be nice to K9
And who I have to be exceedingly nice to
Oh she’s become the matrix now
Romana I am glad you are not dead that joy in her voice
Oh she keeps passing out
You mean to say she wasn’t psychologically injured before?
This one is so strong in the Leela/Romana interactions I love that
Utterly brilliant. K9’s subterfuge is so cute and if it was possible to reach through headphones to throttle a character, Darkel would be first on the list.
This is a really interesting one, and I’ve got both a lot and and not much to say about it.
Resolving(?) the Gallifreyan Civil War so quickly is definitely an interesting choice. While I think this story and Fractures both do a pretty solid job exploring the war, I feel they could have fleshed out this setting a whole lot more and it’s a real shame they they didn’t. Fractures felt like it was setting up this setting for a deeper exploration and then Warfare just kind of concludes it early to set up for the rest of the set which feels a little strange.
I can’t help but feel like this series in particular would be a lot better binged rather than listening to one a week.
That said, there’s a lot to like here, K9’s subterfuge is just a delight, as is Romana’s faith in him. I love the tactical maneuvering from everyone in this, the scene with Darkel and Narvin was especially a highlight for me. I love the way Pandora is dealt with, using the events of previous stories. I love how Romana is willing to sacrifice herself, Leela’s response to that, the way that Leela saves her at the end and her initial disbelief at it.
I do think I’d give a higher rating if I binged these, as I didn’t I’m giving it a 7/10, but if my rating goes up, you’ll know why
I am actually glad that the civil war is wrapped up so quickly, though also surprised.
I’m glad because as much as Pandora was interesting, I found it a bit contrived. I much preferred the everyday politics of S1 to this “big bad” who was just a bit of a moustache-twirling villain.
Lots of great character moments here though, really enjoyed it.