Your Favourite RTD2 Finale?

Yep Clara’s another example. Yuk.

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Is it that you don’t like happy endings?

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For the most part I don’t like fake out endings, like killing Clara then undoing it.

I don’t like Tennant singled out as somehow special & unique amongst all the Doctors & given a get out clause to exist & have adventures.

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I’m definitely with you on the Clara one. But that is off the back of the fact that Moffat did it to all of his companions - they all had ‘dead but not actually exits’ and it just felt repetitive.

(And the fact I didn’t really think much of Me either).

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All writers of fiction manipulate their audience to an extent but not quite as cynically as Moffat does.

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The Giggle, it’s the closet to an Episode where I thought 'Wait a Minute, I like this oh- Oh.", I have my Issues with that Episode but still think most of the first Half holds up incredibly well.
Also heard the Novel was excellent, so uhh I haven’t read it, but I will believe the Word of the TG People on that! :eye: Here is Hope the EoD Target Novel will blow us out of the Window as well :confetti_ball:

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I wish 15 had just regenerated into 13… :stuck_out_tongue:

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I really enjoy the Giggle, it’s a fun episode, and I really love the Spice Girls dance number :laughing:. NPH really kills the role.

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I actually enjoyed “The Giggle” (although NPH’s performance brings it down), and I’ve watched it twice (including showing it to my brother who rarely watches Doctor Who anymore), whereas I would be perfectly happy if “Empire of Death” and “The Reality War” became missing episodes /hj (I immensely dislike them, but I know that some people like those episodes).

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NPH cost too much for their budget to do that :laughing:

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I’d be interested to know why you feel this way, as he was one of my favourite things in the episode.

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It’s The Giggle for me, but by default. It’s deeply flawed but there’s more in it I like than either of the other 2 finales, which consolidate as some of my least favourite Doctor Who.

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I last last watched it several months ago, but I recall that he was overacting (I don’t object to over-the-top Doctor Who villains, but it was too much even for me). It felt like he was doing a parody or “NPH as an over-the-top Doctor Who villain” and not actually portraying the Doctor Who villain, if that makes sense. It’s more of a small thing, but the way his accent changed after every word really got on my nerves. I’ve never seen “The Celestial Toymaker,” so I don’t know if that does or doesn’t align with the Toymaker’s original characterization.

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As others have said, it’s The Giggle for me, pretty much by default. Empire of Death isn’t great (mostly for flubbing Ruby’s arc and Sutekh), but it might as well be Heaven Sent for me when held up alongside The Reality War :confused:

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The Giggle,
Aside from the bi-generation i really enjoyed that one,
but there were bits i liked from empire of death and reality war

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Giggle frankly, for being the good one.

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The Giggle. I like the others but the Giggle is my favorite. Empires of Death is fine and the Reality War is okay but the Poppy stuff and the regeneration brings it down

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Blimey. That’s a heck of a majority.

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Giggle but even that story had bigeneration which bruh

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I mean, it’s definitely The Giggle for me, but that’s not much of a prize! There are individual scenes I adore in both of the others (the memory TARDIS bit in Empire is cool, 13/15 and Ruby/Conrad in Reality are both great scenes), but I’m really disappointed in them both overall. They fall to absolute pieces if you think them through for even a second.

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