It’s just irritating at this point. Like what would canceling the show actually solve or do?
That is what I expect to happen to most props. BBC have a lot of shows with a lot of props in all of them. It is not viable for them to save everything. The TW SUV is not a big part of the TW legacy and i can understand that they did do anything special with it.
…we could have another Paul McGann movi–
Yeah, true. I mainly meant that the BBC has never been the best with preservation and exhibitions. Which is still heartbreaking.
Maaaaaaan why stop there, I want an original movie, a limited 5 part series, a new line of books, the whole she-bang.
In fact, screw this new era and all that came before. Let it be all Paul McGann and nothing but Paul McGann
Indeed!
Stares menacingly at the list of 97 missing episodes of Doctor Who
I don’t believe this Report since it’s clear where the Sun’s political bias stands. However, it does seem like the Show is a bit in a weak Spot, not Rating-wise, I think they are very much fine, but it’s clear that the Creatives behind it probably hoped for more. I do think there is some Truth there like @monkeyshaver put, Ncuti is in Demand, and I am not sure if he really wants to stick to a TV Show, when TV as it is currently at least, is produced in such an uncertain Manner at times. Would you really want to commit to something where a Decision has to be made when you could easily jump to a few bigger Movies? Who knows. I am sure Gatwa has been enjoying his Time in the Role, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he wasn’t a bit annoyed by the Waiting.
To be honest I don’t know how the Show will go on, I do hope so, even while I am not loving this Era, I think there is still a lot you can do. Doctor Who isn’t the Simpsons or some other long-running Shows, it has more longevity, I do worry how the Future of the EU would look like if the Show gets canned, which I don’t believe, but Broadcaster have already in the Past proven that they’d cancel something for stupid Reasons.
I do definitely think getting some fresher (and I mean fresher) Blood would help the Show. Nothing against Russel or his Teams but having the same Composer, a lot of the same Producer, the same Showrunner from 20 Years ago is a bit of a step backwards. I don’t mind if older Writers return, but I don’t think they should be in charge (or at least not for too long) and the same goes for most of those People.
I don’t know, best we can do is just wait and see, maybe after this Series airs there is more Clarity. I don’t think we should jump the shark or expect the worst scenario like a lot do. Oh, well hope I was able to add something to the Conversation.
This is completely worth bearing in mind. I do think the article is overly dramatic on account of being tabloid clickbait and I may not believe that the show is in danger of the BBC wanting it axed BUT… People do have to consider that Ncuti isn’t as devoted to the show as fans are. It’s quite clear the ratings thing and woke stuff is nonsense (as it usually is) and has no bearing on whether Ncuti would want to jump ship. But who knows how many lucrative jobs* have passed him by while they wait even just to hear about Season 3?
The collapse of the Disney deal does not preclude the show continuing as it always has so no, I don’t think the BBC will be looking to axe it just yet considering its status as one of their greatest exports. HOWEVER, there are factors to consider beyond apathy. A sense of paralysis can still set in even with good intentions. Eon and Amazon WANT to be making Bond films. It’s now coming up to 4 years with no news.
I just think any potential hiatus (if one comes) won’t be desired, but may just be necessary for a little bit.
I’m not even sure what my point is beyond, “We don’t fully know what’s going on.” But that not knowing goes both ways. Firmly stating Ncuti is definitely sticking around is as daft as saying he’s definitely quitting as far as I’m concerned. So much like @deltaandthebannermen says, best to take everything with a pinch of salt until things are firmly confirmed.
Given my peripheral work in the entertainment industry I do hear things but I never hear things from higher ups who make decisions. Office gossip may have a kernel of truth but it is still distorted the more it’s passed on.
What I find interesting is the messages from the inside are akin to a huge oil tanker trying to turn around. All of a sudden we’re getting concrete statements about an initial order of 26 episodes. Beforehand we were just excitedly informed that NO MORE GAP YEARS and RTD had grand visions and plans for a Marvelification of Who. Now, things seem to be conspicuously course corrected in what looks to me like an attempt to manage expectations, expectations which were only not managed in the first place due to promotion hyperbole rather than fan frenzy (in my opinion).
So whatever’s going down, I’m not convinced any of it has been handled particularly well.
BUT like I said - just my opinion, none of us know for sure what’s going on so it’s best to sit back and wait for surer signs.
*at least one so far if I take that office gossip as fact
And the shepherd’s boy says… how many cancellation rumours are there in eternity?
When the mountain is completely worn away, the first pop up ad on the first tabloid website reporting the first cancellation rumour will have been able to be closed…
Is it safe to bring up Heaven Sent on this forum yet?
Don’t know if it ever will be
Some very sensible points being made here. My wife showed me the article because it dropped into her timeline, or a grab of it did and she wanted to know if it was true. My view is that they’ve taken a number of things that might turn out to be true, only no one’s quite in the place to know for sure. What’s very likely to be true is that Ncuti can’t put his career on hold if there are no filming dates for future episodes, and that’s true of any other continuing cast members who might have offers of work coming their way. Actors got to eat and no one is going to turn down a definite job for even the best job in the world if there’s no certainty that it will happen. Unless forced to make a decision, I can’t see anyone walking away from a high profile job if it can be deferred, but if there’s the promise of something even better, then that’s a different matter.
It seemed to me that that despicable rag took a few things that might, possibly be true, extrapolated them a lot, then distorted them to meet its own unpleasant political agenda. Unfortunately, saying these things out loud and amplifying them helps to make them come true, even if they weren’t true in the first place. Decisions are never made in a vacuum and what’s reported in the press will almost certainly help guide decision makers’ thinking. On the one hand it is important to take what’s reported in the media with a pinch of salt, as it’s almost certainly not true, we underestimate the power of the media at our peril. We live in an age where whoever speaks loudest is believed. What people believe is “true” until such time as it can be disproved, and that can take a very long time.
However, there’s still a new series to be enjoyed, and a spin off, plus a lot of Big Finish. It’s also worth remembering that there are still a lot of people who love Doctor Who inside and outside of the industry. I don’t believe that it’s going away any time soon, but it may well change form for a bit.
It would be a shame if all of the red tape bs and uncertainty drives him out of the role so soon, but he’s gotta go where his career takes him, and if the way Who is going is holding him back, he shouldn’t stay.
I think RTD maybe shouldn’t have made a promise like “no gap years” if he didn’t know for certain he could deliver on it, and I definitely agree going into spinoffs so soon was way too fast. Hmm, the way RTD runs the show potentially driving a lead actor out of the show, that would never happen.
It’s telling that most of the Doctor Who talk on social media is concerned with whether Ncuti is leaving rather than any continuing storylines for Series 2.
I have a theory, and I should point out that most of my theories are wrong. Ncuti is an up-and-coming actor; it would be damaging for him to be attached to a brand seen to be ‘failing’. It would also be damaging for his prospects to be asked to move on from a project for those very reasons. I suspect him ‘buying out of his contract’ is actually a bit of spin to protect him and his future from bad press. The truth is, I think, that it’s considered best for all if he moves on.
Just my take on it. Thank goodness for Big Finish!
That is because we have not seen anything new about season 2 in two months. There is nothing to talk about yet. It will come when we get the trailer and promotions.
I don’t understand this. How would it benefit BBC if he moves on?
Would you say he’s proven to be terribly popular as The Doctor? Generally speaking, I mean? Has he connected with a wider audience and brought much sought-after new viewers to the show? I wouldn’t - outside fan circles, who may or may not love him, I mean. A new actor may be seen as beneficial, if the show continues.
I’ve heard nothing about what we do know - any conjecture regarding Susan Twist, or Mrs Flood, or returning monsters. One would expect there to be some buzz about that, but there isn’t anyrthing that I have seen.
I don’t see how any other actor would make it more popular. I don’t see people complain about him at all. All the complaints are about the writing (mainly the finale). I think that an early departure would hurt the show more than anything. Ncuti is an upcoming star, which is great for the show. The bigger he becomes, the better for the show. An early departure would also create less trust in the show because people would not want to invest time in a show that gives up on its characters before they have the chance to grow. I see no benefits for the BBC to lose Ncuti this early if they can keep him.