Kerblam! - what's the issue?

The only reason I did not post it earlier was that I thought that it was in Swedish :joy:

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Others have put across my issue with it already but yeah, Kerblam seems like a pretty awful place to work and yet the Doctor is their biggest fan, and at the end blames the people instead of the company, and then leaves without actually fixing anything at all.

“We will hire more humans” will last until the next Shareholder meeting where they need to cut costs and then it will all repeat again.

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Which people does the Doctor blame, specifically? (Not being obstreperous - genuinely asking).

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One thing I do think was a neat idea was turning an ordinary, mundane, everyday thing scary, like Doctor Who often does. Deadly bubble wrap, and I don’t mean the Wirrn, was pretty cool.

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She blames the guy who’s trying to blow the people up (which is bad), but ignores the system that made him feel like that was the only option

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Is there anyone aside from him though?

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I mean it’s less about the fact that she blames him, more in that she ignores the system

Also she kills him for 0 reason lmao

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Doesn’t she literally say “The problem isn’t the system” … :sob:

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13 doesn’t kill him, at least in the direct, murder sense. She offered him a chance to step away and live, and he chose not to.

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She blew up the kerblam robots for 0 reason, she didn’t need to put him in a position where he had to choose to live

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There was a reason, they were already programmed to go out and ship to the intended victims. She reprogrammed the destination to themselves to save everyone, and also destroy the weapons in a way that only some delivery robots died. Charlie was just in the blast, and could have walked away.

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The robots weren’t already programmed to use the bubble wrap though

If she wanted to just stop the shipment to save everyone, she already did that before telling them to blow themselves up by reprogramming them to deliver to where they started, she could then take the bubble wrap and dispose of it safely

If she wanted to destroy the explosive bubble wrap immidiately though, she could have instead had them deliver to the nearest sun

Either way there’s much better options that don’t require blowing up the robots where they already stood, putting someone’s life at risk for no reason

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I guess we just disagree then. I have no qualms about the way 13 fixed it, and it’s no different to every other time the Doctor gives the bad guy “one last chance,” that don’t get criticized.

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It is a very tightly written story, I just really don’t like the message it sends (especially after Oxygen from the previous season).

I think this video conveys most of my feelings more articulately than I could:

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True, to an extent. But there are alternatives to amazon. I try where I can. & tbh if a persons opinion about Kerblam is so strident they are hopefully looking for alternatives in the real world. Not just getting irate about a fictional situation.

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Also, there’s the whole thing about the “The systems aren’t the problem” line. I’ve seen people try to claim that the Doctor’s talking about the sentient AI here, not defending capitalism as a concept. Surely, if that was the case, the line would be “The system isn’t the problem”, singular, because the AI is one system. Pluralizing it means she’s talking about more than one thing, it abstracts it out to a broader point

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Oddly enough, singular was used in “use and exploit the system” right after.

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@deltaandthebannermen

Our site’s very own @quantumshade did a great ananlysis of the episode which I highly reccomend checking out

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There are in some cases, and I use them where possible (see my post about Bookshop: Support your local Bookshop while supporting TARDIS Guide!)

But sometimes they really are the only choice for some things unfortunately and there’s nothing we can personally do to affect that, it would require huge collected efforts.

So “the system” is the problem.

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Nooooooooooooooo I never wanted to see that again!

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