For me, the part that hit the hardest was Yvonne’s mum making a comparison between Ianto and the man she ends up dating. And the whole helicopter imagery potentially being a subtle metaphor for passing on to afterlife/heaven. It’s brilliant but I’m not relistening anytime soon
I listened to My Guest Tonight and whilst it was good, it felt like it should have been a Main Range story because it was focused on this man we’ve never met and Yvonne was barely in it, let alone any other member of Torchwood. It felt a bit of a waste of a story in a limited run.
I finished Nightmares yesterday with Lola and Less Majesty.
I must say, this has been my least favourite Torchwood One set so far. It felt too much like the Main Range, just small stories that didn’t feel grand in scale.
Lola was probably the most-like Torchwood One, and it was quite good although slightly predictable, but I liked how it was toxic waste. I’ve read before about how we designed signs that would warn people for thousands of years in the future. Good stuff.
Less Majesty was a “farce” and was supposed to be funny but it just wasn’t really my sense of humour. By this point I also thought that “I’ve lost my memory” was so overused in this box set. If Torchwood are going to use things like Retcon all the time they really need to develop a vaccine to make the main staff immune from it, it’s a huge liability.
3 more to go! Let’s hope I like the next box set better!
There is an anti-retcon pill in the books, Almost Perfect specifically.
Jack gives one to Ianto but warns that it might unearth weird memories instead of the missing ones.
And didn’t Ianto take a retcon blocked in the first boxset?
I think it paved ways for new stories, and is a bit haunting when you can’t trust your memories.
Nightmares is probably my 2nd fav boxset after I Hate Mondays so interesting to see your perspective
I suppose the amount of times TW1 take retcon makes sense imo as Ianto in TW3 takes retcon in disproportionate amounts compared to every other member. To the point in one of the books he has started to notice its taste in drinks
iirc, its less that it’s crossing over with things you dont’ know about yet, more that there’s one other story that gives even more added context around it.
In I Hate Mondays there’s the narrative throughline in the background of Ianto’s Dad:
- In Dinner for Yvonne he finds out that his dad’s passed away
- In By Royal Appointment he’s recently been off because of it, and has just come back after not too long with Yvonne trying to comfort him at the end of it
- And then Nerves finally explores how Ianto’s really feeling about the whole situation, and is a really great showcase of the almost Father/Son dynamic that Ianto and Tommy have
There might be other smaller nods and references to other things (paging @teslapunk3327 given their review), but I don’t think you’re missing out on much, especially knowing you’ve listened to the other Boxsets.
I would reccomend listening to the Ianthology though, especially so soon after finishing I Hate Mondays. The three stories really expand on Ianto’s relationship with family and fatherhood, and Disco especially should be listened to soon, it’s basically a 4th part in the I Hate Mondays boxset, taking place shortly after Dinner for Yvonne, and really adding to the set and Ianto’s emotions in Nerves.
I Hate Mondays released a few weeks before Disco released, and Disco filled in the gaps to the audio. I personally did revisit Nerves numerous times after Disco, and the rest of the I Hate Mondays set.
So you did experience it in the intended way, as Big Finish created, and they did say that each can be enjoyed separately…
But personally I think the writers thought Disco was so good that they made a whole boxset around it, then the “each enjoyable separately” was just a marketing thing.
Tube Strike isn’t explicitly mentioned, but develops on Tommy and Ianto, and creates a bridge for their closer dynamic in Nerves. Imo Tube Strike takes place before Nerves, (and maybe when Harriet Jones was the PM- lol) but not by much.
I wonder if they’ll ever do a story set immediately after Doomsday? I was going to say during as well, but I doubt that’d work. We don’t know what happened to Tommy or even CyberYvonne either I think?
Saw a Twitter post saying that CyberYvonne was found by UNIT and imprisoned, I think that’s from one of the games, but it’s the only thing that goes into detail about what else could’ve happened to her apart from being flung into the Void.
And then for Tommy, I think Retirement Plan and Tube Strike demonstrate he couldn’t run very far due to age. Probably shot down.
Listened to Nerves today. Just when I start to forget these stories aren’t set in the current day I get his with references to James Blunt, Darude Sandstorm and flip phones.