Episode Discussion: Wish World

Cool. Its a great story. I do expect fandom on places like this to want to go back. But the general new audience? Especially where a big villain is introduced with no context. Do those new fans have time to go back & do the homework?

& of course RTD claimed it was all new no background knowledge required! RTD1 era was so much better at brining back classic elements. I do get the feeling though all the returning stuff now makes it seem that RTD thinks, even subconsciously, that the shows best days are behind it.

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Yeah exactly. Bringing back elements from the past can work, when it’s done well. And bringing back/name dropping a whole bunch in a short space of time and not giving them the time to breathe and stand on their own ain’t it. The autons, daleks, cybermen, master, even beep the meep worked, because they were the main focus of their respective episodes and that gave the audience time to get to know them even if they weren’t familiar.

Whereas now it’s just Yet Another name drop amongst the numerous other plots going on, so they literally have to exposition dump to get the audience up to speed (and no, lampshading it doesn’t make it any better)

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Where did Kate and Ibrahim’s relationship come from? Did I miss something? I still don’t understand when they fell in love :sob:

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it pretty much came from nowhere, if i remember correctly. The first time it was hinted at was lucky day I think

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I think it was at the end of Empires of Death

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I’m really surprised by the mixed reaction to this episode. I thought it was fantastic and easily the best Rani episode so far. Loved the WandaVision vibes of it; my favourite of the season.

Even my parents were mixed. My Dad said ā€˜I don’t know why they have to make it so confusing’ after we finished watching. I don’t get it though; I thought it was such a strong start to the series finale.

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Literally… between that and adding Lethbridge back to her name and making UNIT less science focused again I really am worried for the spin-off. Us lesbian Kate truthers can still dream ig

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My parents had a similar reaction. They didn’t get how the Doctor and Belinda were now on earth in the fake reality, they didn’t understand the explanation for how it came to be, and were very confused by the Rani and Omega.

I really enjoyed it too, but I think the combination of bring back old characters that weren’t well explained, and the sudden switch to this wish world reality from the TARDIS made it hard to understand for some people, especially casual fans, which I think is sad :pensive_face:

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Conrad has basically traded one prison cell for another, this time with added baby

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It could be interesting when he finds out he’s been used.

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Wlw relationships in Doctor Who feels overlooked :frowning: I mean of course we had Madam Vastra&Jenny , Bill&Heather , Thasmin but something still feels off I don’t know how to explain it :sob: I’m sorry if that doesn’t make any sense

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I hope The Rani just disposes of him the moment he finds out

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10p says Mrs Flood teams up with him against the Rani.

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I really love Vastra & Jenny and they’ve had some great moments in their spin-off series I’d highly recommend them!!

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I would too if my other self , who is basically still me just shoved me aside :sob:

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It’ll be interesting to see if RTD mops up how bigeneration works next week. I could imagine Mrs Flood being killed, and dying. Dead, no regeneration. Meanwhile the Rani goes on. Therefore implying that’s also how it worked for 14/15, and tying that up.

Although there’s part of me who could see RTD being chaotic and showing Mrs Flood regenerating as he manically chuckles to himself.

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It’d be funny if he did a David Tennant cameo just to kill off the 14th Doctor…

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I can imagine fan reactions :sob:

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Conversely, I’d love if the episode ends with everyone dead, the Earth a pile of rubble, the UNIT tower collapsed, everything’s a complete mess… then the TARDIS materialises and out steps Tennant. ā€œWhat the hell did I miss?ā€ Cut to credits.

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If we were going to do that, I’d rather it was 7 and Ace stepping out of the TARDIS…

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