Episode Discussion: The Devil's Chord

I found it a whole lot better than the last episode.

It was fun, it was fast, it had some really strong moments and ideas. The Doctor actually felt like the Doctor, it was directed beautifully and Jinkx Monsoon absolutely chewed the scenery. The inclusion of the Beatles was incredibly unnecessary and there were certainly some flaws, but it was fun and much better than before.

You can read my whole review that’s linked below:

Season 1 (Series 14); Episode 2 — “The Devil’s Chord” by Russell T. Davies

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Honestly, the more I keep thinking about this, and the Pantheon, and the beings of untold power from beyond the universe, and the child who comes from a mystery background and get adopted on Earth… this is literally just the SJA that they never got to write. The Trickster, who has the power to maniuplate reality, and his child Sky who was designed to cause chaos - I mean if you go on tardis.wiki and look at the unproduced stories and the Trickster, it just looks more and more similar to me.

I mean the Trickster comes from the ‘Pantheon of Discord’… the Toymaker and Maestro have referenced ‘the Pantheon’… I’m connecting dots over here…

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I was saying the same when we were watching at midnight. It felt like a SJA.

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Not being nearly familiar enough with SJA, was thumbing through those.

Just looking over here:

Makes me wonder if it’ll turn out that the one who left Ruby was the Corsair. Of course, all Timelords are dead… but they never stay dead dead…

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This is, by far, the worst episode of Doctor Who in the history of Doctor Who, maybe ever. Really close to the point of being unwatchable. It is bad, untasteful, without any logic or sense. What really puts me of is the overly expressed acting, (not only the Maestro, but the Doctor and Ruby as well) they are either screaming like teenage girls, yelling or crying with tears in their eyes (this is every episode since last christmas special, not just this one).

I really want it to be the Trickster so badly, he’s such a good villain in SJA and I’d like to see him taken further in Doctor Who. It was more Space Babies that made me think of him, and I’m trying not to get my hopes up that he’ll be involved, but the original plan for sky keeps rattling around my head and almost convincing me.

As a villain he would also really fit with the vibes of the series so far, I think it could be really good

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Worth noting that Ruby is a teenage girl. Don’t know what else you expected on that front.

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literally this, like I keep thinking about it and it makes more sense to me. I don’t need much, I’d take a namedrop but really there is no real reason why he couldn’t show up in DW proper and I think it would be awesome

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Not sure how to feel about this episode yet, I think it’s really going to come down to how it holds up on rewatch now all the surprise is gone, will the dog song still be funny etc. I did have a lot of fun while watching it, but the more I think about it the more weird things pop out. I also don’t really see the point in the setting, this could be any recording studio in any time and place, and for as much promotion on the beatles angle as we got I was expecting them to be much more involved

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its also slightly because as a cloaked figure Ruby’s mum just looked liked him for just a second in Space Babies. Doesn’t help that I was watching Whatever Happened to Sarah-Jane? earlier so he was at the forfront of my mind anyway

Is it really that much of a logical leap that RTD held onto the plan for Sky and now finally gets to do it, I want it to be true so badly. He’s an incredible villain who SJA could only take so far, they could really lean into it and it’d be amazing

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Rewatched with a big group before Eurovision this evening and both episodes went down a treat. I could see these stories doing better with a general audience than a fan audience.

Both continued to please me on re-watch with this one being the better of the two.

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Gonna be honest, I did not like this episode at all. I found the Maestro way too extreme and everyone in the story was just so over the top and loud. I think all of the music scenes were extremely dragged out and took me out of it. Really, the only redeeming factors about this episode were the callbacks such as the Pyramids of Mars one and the dialogue about Susan. Loved those. Outside of that, I was very bored and disengaged. Don’t even get me started on the ending song. One of the worst things I’ve ever seen from Who.

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Just saw this from reddit.

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A shame you didn’t enjoy it @ondryk.selecky but that’s the great thing about Doctor Who - someone’s ‘worst ever episode’ is always someone else’s ‘best ever’ and there’s always something new coming next week.

Do pop over to the introductions thread and tell us a bit more about yourself - welcome to the forum!

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Spotted that the moment it came up. Brilliant bit of fan service.

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Ahead of watching, I thought this episode would be more up my street and I wasn’t wrong but I do feel it dropped the ball in two key parts.

The 60s setting was excellent and I absolutely loved the bit where the Doctor and Ruby slowly discovered that something was wrong with music. And then the lovely scene with the people listening to Ruby’s piano playing.

I can see Jinxx Monsoon’s Maestro wasn’t to some people’s tastes but they were almost exactly how I expected them to be and I enjoyed them immensely. I’ve always loved the concept of the Toymaker (and loved NPH’s version) so a camp child of the Toymaker seemed like a natural step and ‘the essence of music’ is a great concept.

I know there will be some who baulk at fantasy being so prominent in the series but, IMO, it’s always been part and parcel of the show from day one and it’s just that, like Season 7 leant into a gritty, thriller vibe, or Season 13 into Hammer Horror or Season 18 into mathematical sci-fi, RTD is leaning into the fantasy while he plays out the story of the Pantheon and the Toymaker’s legions. It won’t be here forever and it won’t even be here in every episode (there wasn’t any ‘magic’ in Space Babies for example).

But oh my that song…

I adore musicals and I was excited when the trailers hinted there would be a musical episode with singing and dancing. First of all, Murray Gold is a great composer of incidental music. His songwriting skills, though, aren’t as good. None of his songs for the show have a particularly good structure, melody or lyrics (and I don’t know who is writing the lyrics because it might not be him). This one was hugely repetitive and just went nowhere - it was just the same riff and lyric over and over and over again. (And I’m assuming everyone spotted Gold at the piano in one shot).

The dancing was actually quite fun - and I did enjoy Ruby dancing and singing with Cilla, although it took a rewatch of the clip to realise we had the two Strictly cameos as well.

But the song just felt tacked on the end and not part of the episode really which was the major failing. It also went on and on and on and on!

And then there was the hugely unnecessary and inexplicable bit on the musical zebra crossing. Are we supposed to assume that ‘a bit of the Maestro’s power was lingering’ a bit like the part in The Giggle where the cartoon mallet came out to split the TARDISes? If this was the case, it really should have been mentioned because, as presented, it just seemed like a really weird epilogue.

So I’m a bit sad about the musical number because I did feel a bit let down by it but it’s ultimately something I can get past easily enough.

I am intrigued by ‘what’s coming’ and the reappearance of Henry Arbinger at the end (he should have been the epilogue rather than the musical crossing) and I would welcome further ‘legion members’ because I rather love all that.

And my god the Doctor looked good in that suit!

ETA: AND JUNE HUDSON WAS BRILLIANT!!!

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Yeah, agree completely - the more fantasy vibe isn’t really for me but I am intrigued to see what this is all building to. And the song… It would have been okay if it hadn’t felt like it lasted forever. Like, it was fun but it needed to have been shorter.

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I liked the song.

Like no, it wasn’t good but I don’t care. It was fun and silly and goofy and in what turned out to be a very heavy episode, it was a good way to lighten the mood before we head off to a warzone next week.

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I kinda feel magic is what rtd’s after. The whole atmosphere since that salt thingy 14 did…

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Yeah, that’s one thing I’m worried about.