Episode Discussion: Lux

Murray loves his rip/riffs.

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I actually sang Love Don’t Roam at a high school formal, dressed as Tenth and everything.

Sure, no one asked me to, and it was on a boat so they were kind of a captive audience, but I had a tradition to maintain, dammit!

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You just made me go double check to see if Murray Gold worked on the ME2 ost. It’s so close to I am the Doctor/Mad Man with a Box it’s uncanny.

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I can’t be the only one who thought about it…


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Can’t wait for RTD to make Curse of Fatal Death super canon this series!

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The scene with the fans should have been a lot shorter, & then more very quick jumps into different realities including one where they briefly appear with a COFD Doctor. Ncuti goes ā€œhell no!ā€, Belinda goes ā€œwait, but who..ā€ then they’re off to another one.

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Okay but genuinely this is grand

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I wanted it to be longer!

That would have been fun

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I don’t want to be mean to fans but to me it felt like a parody of Doctor Who fans from a comedy sketch. Maybe it would have been better as a Children In Need skit?

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To me, it felt like a love letter to the fans that fitted the meta-narrative in the episode. But I would have loved a longer version as a CiN skit.

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I love it when fiction and reality blurs and fictional characters become aware of their nature as fiction, I think it can be really clever and opens up a lot of storytelling possibilities. It’s been a thing since (I believe) The Arabian Nights, maybe even longer. Loved it when the League of Gentlemen used it and I thought it was fun when Red Dwarf played with it.

Doctor Who has in its wheelhouse the Land of Fiction where a threat is the Doctor, Jamie and Zoe could become fiction. So it’s a valid thing for Doctor Who to try.

But I didn’t like that fan scene either. And not because it was offensive to fans, but it just puts the brakes on the episode. In what should have been a breathless escape from a realm the Doctor and Belinda hardly understand, they stop and have a cup of tea for 5 minutes. It just kills the momentum dead for me.

I’m certain that it’s going to come into play later in the series but it didn’t feel germane to this episode at all.

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I can see how it could be seen as that, but for me, it had the opposite effect. It felt like a breathing pause before the final act.

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If/when it comes back into play later (hopefully via land of fiction) I might be a bit more positive on it

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Yeah, the big issue was how it stalled the narrative. Thats why I think a shorter scene, or just a few brief stops in different realities would have been more fun & in keeping with the momentum of the drama.

As you say it is a well used trope almost up there with ā€˜It was all a dream’, so has to be really good/fun to make me interested.

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Yes, if they’d had a very brief interaction with these fans in an almost montage then it would have worked so much better.

What doesn’t help is their true nature isn’t seeded and built up to in any meaningful way. The Doctor arrives and the vibe is, ā€œYou’re fictional! We watch you on telly!ā€ and then it goes, ā€œActually no, other way round.ā€ There’s no clever switcheroo for it to be a weighty moment that lands. It just U-turns halfway in.

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That would have been brilliant!

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I’ve been writing my review of Lux and realised it is a sort of mirror of The Idiot’s Lantern - both are set in the early 50s. Lantern has people being sucked into the TVs, much like the victims are sucked into the filmstock in Lux, and both have the villain coming from the screen and talking directly to people in the real world. There is a contrast too in that Lantern is grimy, black and white, post-war 50s whereas Lux is bright, neon, forward-looking (aside from the racism, obviously) 50s.

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A mirror in the sense that it’s opposite.

The Idiot’s Lantern was not a good episode.
Lux is :grin:

(My opinion only of course, although the scores on the site don’t lie)

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Here’s me trying to point out some interesting parallels and there’s you wittering on about ratings..

fans gonna fan…

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