Doctor Who will return to TV

Part of me thinks that even if the BBC went down this route with programming, it wouldn’t start with something as big and far reaching as Who. For all the creatives apparently embracing the possibilities, there are an equal number resisting in various ways. I doubt the BBC is oblivious to the debate around AI and its pros and cons. And a BBC Boss is entitled to think something is ‘pretty good’ even if the majority of us have looked at it and wondered why we subjected our eyes to such torture. It doesn’t mean he’s going to hand Doctor Who over to an AI production next week.

I can see the BBC experimenting with smaller scale programming to test the waters of public reaction. Like it or not, AI is going to be used in creating television and film but it is how it is used that is important.

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A lot of them are grounded in ‘its better than the crap we got from RTD recently’ and are therefore in bad faith and motivated not by a desire to want AI Doctor Who but to find another way to piss on one era of Who they didn’t like. Levine being the prime example of this.

You can guarantee they would equally hate AI Doctor Who should it ever officially exist.

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I agree with this. We’d be fools to think a director, if he wants some birds in the distance of the shot, wouldn’t go “alright AI some birds there.”

But I think that’s about the limit for it.

The quality just isn’t there to do anything more, and I have my doubts it’ll ever be.

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Yeah, they are just taking every chance they get at criticising RTD2 as the worst thing ever. I don’t think they actually think AI Who is superior (or if they do, it’s a very small amount).

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I think that they hide a lot of negative comments

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I’d much rather an artist used CGI :woman_shrugging:

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I’m not so sure about that. AI has made giant leaps forward in just a couple of years. We kept laughing at how ridiculous AI stuff looked a few years ago, and now AI is producing pictures and videos that, at best, look almost realistic. Give it a couple of more years and we seriously won’t be able to tell the difference unless there is a watermark or something telling us that it is AI.

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Your hypothetical director is an odd fellow to me. Detail minded enough to want to make sure some birds fly by in the background but not enough to composite it themself so they can control the direction etc.

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Real birds and miniatures FTW! Still looks great 50 years later!

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Sylvester McCoy was in The Hobbit? He’s never mentioned anything of the sort

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I would happily take miniature birds over AI birds.

Or good ol’ CGI:

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Cinema :raising_hands:

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I just don’t buy the “inevitable” argument. We had the same with NFT’s, and look how that panned out. For me personally, I don’t care “how” it’s used, even if it’s something menial. We have had artists forever doing things that they can still do, and we should encourage that instead of replacing them with AI.

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It has all to do with money. The big execs realise that they can save a lot of money by replacing people with AI, and that’s all they care about. NFTs didn’t have that effect.

When people running companies realise they can do something faster and cheaper than before to maximise profit, they absolutely will do that, and they don’t care about anything else. Unfortunately.

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I don’t think anybody sensible ever said NFTs were the future :laughing:

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I’d say the same about anyone saying it for AI :wink:

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I love the positivity of starting a new thread for ongoing news rather than hanging out in the Christmas is cancelled thread.

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Which is fine. But when AI is already part and parcel of technology in a variety of ways, I don’t think NFTs is a comparable situation.

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I saw this thread and thought “oh this seems like a fun new positive conversation” but a quick scan through the recent replies shows I will only get mad if I engage lol.

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■■■■ generative AI. Keep it away from Doctor Who.

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I’m not saying that I’m supporting AI-generated TV, but I want to mention the fact that Reality War was not made by AI, and it didn’t help it :laughing:

AI is just a tool, same as any other technology that makes life easier, and the people in charge of it will define how good, bad or morally right the result will be.

That being said, I hope they will save the actors’, designers’, and others’ work because it’s a form of art, and that’s what I’m (and many others) in here for. I don’t want to be simply entertained; I want to be connected with the creative work and ideas of some of the greatest (human) minds that work on the show.

I suppose AI-generated fan content might not be too bad (and definitely inevitable), because fans always have and always will use any possible tricks to compensate for the lack of budget and overwhelm of ideas. But with big organisations like the BBC, if you can’t provide resources, then why the hell do we need you

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